Package: ftp.debian.org Severity: wishlist Dear ftpmaster,
For implementing automatic detection fo sourceless file particularly minified javascript, I need some clarification about correcting sourceless file. They are two schools on the archive: - some repack the origin tarball adding the missing source to it - some add it to debian patch on subdirectory debian/missing-source What is the correct use ? We have some chat on #debian-qa about it today. A definitive answer his welcome. Bastien (21:57:49) broucarie: I will try to detect javascript minified without source automatically. What is the usual directory for carrying source under debian/ ? Do you think it is worthless to open a bug against Debian Developer's Reference best pratice ? (21:57:56) broucarie: nthykier: ^ (21:57:59) broucarie: paultag: ^ (21:58:18) paultag: source in debian? (21:58:29) nthykier: for carrying the source that upstream is missing? (21:58:39) paultag: that needs to be in the orig.tar.gz (21:58:45) paultag: we distribute the orig.tar.gz on it's own (21:58:58) paultag: needs has a repack. (21:59:21) nthykier: paultag: are you sure that requires a repack? I seem to recall hearing that it was sufficient to put it in the debian part (21:59:24) broucarie: paultag: do you have reference ? (21:59:37) paultag: we distribute the orig.tar.gz (21:59:43) paultag: it's on the ftp archive on it's own (21:59:52) paultag: if we have sourceless files, that's not great (22:00:11) paultag: some cases it's not legally an issue (MIT/Expat), but it is a DFSG issue (22:00:40) nthykier: paultag: are you sure that will survive the "d-d" test? (22:00:54) nthykier: (the part of requiring a repack) (22:01:03) paultag: d-d test? (22:01:25) nthykier: paultag: as in, can you post it to debian-devel without getting lynched? (22:01:41) paultag: debian-devel isn't the one doing the work :) (22:01:51) paultag: it's an ftp-master policy, I'm just a minion (22:01:58) paultag: I don't get to set policy yet :) (22:02:20) nthykier: paultag: I am sure there are people who'd consider "stabbing someone" as work :P (22:02:37) paultag: bah, there's already a list of people who want to stab me (22:02:41) paultag: "get in line" (22:03:10) broucarie: paultag: Will open a bug against debian-policy for clarifying it, with X-Debbugs-CC: ftpmas...@debian.org (22:03:44) paultag: policy doesn't set this (22:03:51) paultag: they don't decide DFSG freeness. (22:03:54) paultag: ftp-master does (22:03:58) paultag: but I'm not an ftp-master (22:04:18) broucarie: paultag: A footnote on policy will really help (22:04:27) paultag: policy can feel free to ask ftp-master explicitly (22:04:35) paultag: but policy won't set this on their own, that's not right (22:05:24) broucarie: paultag: so what is the process to improve the situation ? (22:05:34) paultag: ask ftpmaster@ to clarify (22:05:48) paultag: but as I understand it, the proper way is to repack the tarball (22:08:11) olly: not sure I totally buy the "we distribute the orig.tar.gz" argument, since you can fetch any file by itself from sources.debian.net (yes, I realise that's .*NET*) (22:11:18) jcristau: and we never ship the .orig without the .diff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
