On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 08:43:30PM +0100, Simon Pepping wrote: > Trying to do that; this is my report:
Thanks. > The locales below were obtained in emacs in XFCE, thus excluding bash > startup files, even though these do not contain locale settings. I think I'd have prefered in bash, but I assume you're definitely sure emacs doesn't gets in the way. > > The following tests were done without ~/.xsessionrc. Ok. > > Test 1. Log in without changing the language in the language selector: > > locale (this is the system-wide locale): > > LANG=nl_NL.utf8 > LANGUAGE= > LC_CTYPE="nl_NL.utf8" > LC_NUMERIC="nl_NL.utf8" > LC_TIME="nl_NL.utf8" > LC_COLLATE="nl_NL.utf8" > LC_MONETARY="nl_NL.utf8" > LC_MESSAGES="nl_NL.utf8" > LC_PAPER="nl_NL.utf8" > LC_NAME="nl_NL.utf8" > LC_ADDRESS="nl_NL.utf8" > LC_TELEPHONE="nl_NL.utf8" > LC_MEASUREMENT="nl_NL.utf8" > LC_IDENTIFICATION="nl_NL.utf8" > LC_ALL= This one puzzles me a little. I don't think it's the first one in the locale selector list (which gets selected by default if nothing else is selected), unless the ordering itself is different in nl_NL? > > ~/.dmrc: > > [Desktop] > Language=nl_NL.utf8 > Session=xfce Did .dmrc existed *before* the test? If so, that explains why LANG=nl_NL.utf8 > > Test 2. Log in with changing the language in the language selector to > english - USA: > > locale: > > LANG=en_US.utf8 > LANGUAGE= > LC_CTYPE="en_US.utf8" > LC_NUMERIC="en_US.utf8" > LC_TIME="en_US.utf8" > LC_COLLATE="en_US.utf8" > LC_MONETARY="en_US.utf8" > LC_MESSAGES="en_US.utf8" > LC_PAPER="en_US.utf8" > LC_NAME="en_US.utf8" > LC_ADDRESS="en_US.utf8" > LC_TELEPHONE="en_US.utf8" > LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US.utf8" > LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US.utf8" > LC_ALL= > > ~/.dmrc > > [Desktop] > Language=en_US.utf8 > Session=xfce That's consistent. > > Test 3. Log in without changing the language in the language selector: > > locale: > > LANG=nl_NL.utf8 > LANGUAGE= > LC_CTYPE="nl_NL.utf8" > LC_NUMERIC="nl_NL.utf8" > LC_TIME="nl_NL.utf8" > LC_COLLATE="nl_NL.utf8" > LC_MONETARY="nl_NL.utf8" > LC_MESSAGES="nl_NL.utf8" > LC_PAPER="nl_NL.utf8" > LC_NAME="nl_NL.utf8" > LC_ADDRESS="nl_NL.utf8" > LC_TELEPHONE="nl_NL.utf8" > LC_MEASUREMENT="nl_NL.utf8" > LC_IDENTIFICATION="nl_NL.utf8" > LC_ALL= > > ~/.dmrc: > > [Desktop] > Language=nl_NL.utf8 > Session=xfce Here's there a problem. If you don't touch the language selector, lightdm-gtk-greeter should pick the one from the user .dmrc when the username is entered (or is selected in the user list). It might be worse checking the .dmrc from outside X before entering the username, just to be sure. > > Test 4. Log in with changing the language in the language selector to > english - USA (just to select english for the next test): > > locale: > > LANG=en_US.utf8 > LANGUAGE= > LC_CTYPE="en_US.utf8" > LC_NUMERIC="en_US.utf8" > LC_TIME="en_US.utf8" > LC_COLLATE="en_US.utf8" > LC_MONETARY="en_US.utf8" > LC_MESSAGES="en_US.utf8" > LC_PAPER="en_US.utf8" > LC_NAME="en_US.utf8" > LC_ADDRESS="en_US.utf8" > LC_TELEPHONE="en_US.utf8" > LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US.utf8" > LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US.utf8" > LC_ALL= > > ~/.dmrc: > > [Desktop] > Language=en_US.utf8 > Session=xfce This one is ok. > > Test 5: > > Restore ~/xsessionrc: I hope you mean ~/.xsessionrc? > > # . /etc/profile > # . ~/.bash_profile > > LANG="en_US.UTF-8" > export LC_MONETARY="nl_NL.UTF-8" > export LC_PAPER="nl_NL.UTF-8" > export LC_MEASUREMENT="nl_NL.UTF-8" > export LC_TIME="nl_NL.UTF-8" > export LC_NAME="nl_NL.UTF-8" > export LC_ADDRESS="nl_NL.UTF-8" > export LC_TELEPHONE="nl_NL.UTF-8" > export LC_IDENTIFICATION="nl_NL.UTF-8" > export LANGUAGE=en > > Log in without changing the language in the language selector: Before sourcing .xsessionrc, I assume the situation is the same as Test 3, so locales should be: > LANG=nl_NL.utf8 > LANGUAGE= > LC_CTYPE="nl_NL.utf8" > LC_NUMERIC="nl_NL.utf8" > LC_TIME="nl_NL.utf8" > LC_COLLATE="nl_NL.utf8" > LC_MONETARY="nl_NL.utf8" > LC_MESSAGES="nl_NL.utf8" > LC_PAPER="nl_NL.utf8" > LC_NAME="nl_NL.utf8" > LC_ADDRESS="nl_NL.utf8" > LC_TELEPHONE="nl_NL.utf8" > LC_MEASUREMENT="nl_NL.utf8" > LC_IDENTIFICATION="nl_NL.utf8" > LC_ALL= Then .xsessionrc is sourced. LANG is set to en_US.UTF-8, but only for the current shell. LC_ variables are set to nl_NL.UTF-8 (which they already are) and exported. Then LANGUAGE is set to en and exported to the environment, so we get: > > LANG=nl_NL.utf8 > LANGUAGE=en > LC_CTYPE="nl_NL.utf8" > LC_NUMERIC="nl_NL.utf8" > LC_TIME=nl_NL.UTF-8 > LC_COLLATE="nl_NL.utf8" > LC_MONETARY=nl_NL.UTF-8 > LC_MESSAGES="nl_NL.utf8" > LC_PAPER=nl_NL.UTF-8 > LC_NAME=nl_NL.UTF-8 > LC_ADDRESS=nl_NL.UTF-8 > LC_TELEPHONE=nl_NL.UTF-8 > LC_MEASUREMENT=nl_NL.UTF-8 > LC_IDENTIFICATION=nl_NL.UTF-8 > LC_ALL= > > ~/.dmrc: > > [Desktop] > Language=nl_NL.utf8 > Session=xfce Same as Test 4, which is wrong but consistent here. So I think you should use export LANG= in the above .xsessionrc and it would correctly set the LANG in the child session. Now, I have no idea why the saved .dmrc is not correctly loaded for you, it might help to look at lightdm and lightdm-gtk-greeters logs. For what it's worth, I think I use more or less the same setup as you: my main locale is fr_FR.UTF-8 (so I chose that in lightdm locale selector and it's saved in .dmrc). Then I wan't the text messages in english, so I only do that in .xsessionrc: export LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8 and I get: LANG=fr_FR.utf8 LANGUAGE= LC_CTYPE="fr_FR.utf8" LC_NUMERIC="fr_FR.utf8" LC_TIME="fr_FR.utf8" LC_COLLATE="fr_FR.utf8" LC_MONETARY="fr_FR.utf8" LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8 LC_PAPER="fr_FR.utf8" LC_NAME="fr_FR.utf8" LC_ADDRESS="fr_FR.utf8" LC_TELEPHONE="fr_FR.utf8" LC_MEASUREMENT="fr_FR.utf8" LC_IDENTIFICATION="fr_FR.utf8" LC_ALL= Regards, -- Yves-Alexis Perez
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