Sven Joachim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Peter S Galbraith wrote:
> 
> > I disagree with this interpretation.  I certainly didn't think of it
> > that way when I packaged them.
> >
> > While matlab and maple are certainly non-free software, the elisp files
> > don't support these software directly.
> 
> There are the autoloaded commands `matlab-shell' and `cmaple' to run
> matlab and maple as subprocesses.  Does that not mean direct support?

If that was the core of it, then yes it would.

> Count yourself lucky if RMS does not notice you promoting maple and
> matlab. ;-)

I'll cross that bridge when I get to it.  I'm sure he had a c-mode
before he had a free C compiler.  I don't particularly agree with his
views on what is free enough for documentation as well (e.g. his
non-free sections).
 
> > The elisp files are to help write scripts which can be under any
> > license, including free ones.
> 
> My objection was that you still need the non-free third party software
> to actually _run_ those scripts. :-(
> Anyway, it seems that your point of view is generally accepted, as I found
> three Emacs add-on packages in main which also help to write scripts
> for non-free interpreters, namely inform-mode, lpc-mode and tads2-mode.
> 
> >  I don't even have matlab in my system but can read .m files more
> > easily with matlab-mode.
> 
> Okay, than matlab-mode is not so useless after all, I see.
> Fortunately, you don't enforce that on other people by changing
> auto-mode-alist.
> 
> > If you still disagree, I guess we can ask debian-devel or debian-policy.
> 
> While I would still prefer a different package for these files, I am
> sufficiently convinced that it is no policy violation to leave them in
> the main section.  So I've downgraded the severity to "wishlist".

Thanks for being reasonable about an alternative point of view on it.

It's a fine line, but I don't think I have crossed it.  I'm sure there
are others within Debian who would disagree with me, so this topic may
come up again at some point.

Thanks,
Peter


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