X-Debbugs-CC: James Hunt <james.h...@ubuntu.com>
Package: upstart
Severity: normal
Version: 0.1.1-1
Control: owner -1 james.h...@ubuntu.com

On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 11:53:42PM +0100, Michael Stapelberg wrote:
> Ian Jackson <ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes:
> > I think it would be good, regardless of what the TC decides on the
> > init system question for Debian, for systemd and upstart to converge
> > on a single reasonable protocol.
> Helmut Grohne has done some work in that direction², speaking to the
> relevant people at DebConf 13 in person. I am not entirely sure about
> the current status of these efforts, maybe Helmut can comment????

Thanks for the reminder.

I talked to James Hunt about this during DebConf 13 and also asked at
least Steve Langasek about the rationale behind the socket activation
interface that upstart uses. At that point, we were unable to understand
the technical reasons and agreed that I should attempt to contact Scott
James Remnant to ask him for his thoughts on this. Sadly he never
replied even though I included at least two of his email addresses. We
further agreed that the condition of timeout would be met with upstart
actually implementing systemd's interface and James Hunt doing the work.
The missing piece currently seems to be a bug report for getting the
process going.

Helmut


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