Hi Michael, On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 02:29:58PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > forcemerge 717386 724668 > thanks > > Hi Guido, > > Am 26.09.2013 14:17, schrieb Guido Günther: > > attached patch adds the systemd-journal group by default so one doesn't > > have to create it explicitly in order to add user to it. This makes it > > simpler to enable users to read all logs. > > I'm merging this bug with the existing one (#717386).
I didn't spot this one, sorry. > I vaguely remember that we discussed that on IRC, and one concern that > was raised by Tollef iirc was, why we not just continue to use adm > (which systemd has used in the past). I don't think we came to a > conclusion yet, whether we should just patch systemd to use adm or > follow upstream and use a dedicated group. I was thinking along that line too and now that you mention too I'd even prefer it since it wouldn't require any additional setup at all. > > Regarding your patch, you don't need the > "getent group systemd-journal" guards, adduser is clever enough to deal > with that [1]. I know but without the guards you either have to discard adduser/deluser output entierly or live with the: addgroup: The group `foo' already exists as a system group. Exiting. output. Since I like the "no news is good news" paradigm I prefer the getent guards. > Removing a system user on purge is another controversial topic, > especially since we don't nuke any persistent logs (should they exist). > > Also, adduser is not an essential package, so the systemd package would > need a Depends: adduser. That's true. I can cleanup the patch if we go down that road but using adm might be preferrable so patching upstream making the group configurable would probably better spent time then. Cheers, -- Guido > > > Cheers, > Michael > > [1] https://wiki.debian.org/AccountHandlingInMaintainerScripts > > -- > Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the > universe are pointed away from Earth? > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-dist-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org