Hi Fabian,
On Mo, 09 Sep 2013, Fabian Greffrath wrote:
> So they can block development by sheer ignorance?
You are a bit overdoing. First, did you consider the fact that
the fonts currently in gsfonts provide cyrillic glyphs.
Now removing them, what are the consequences?
Are you aware, have you planned for that? Have you provided alternatives?
There are a lot of packages wiht rdepends on gsfonts(-x11). You
have to consider the impact of yor changes.
Only because there is a newer upstream or release, it does not mean
it makes immediate sense to go forth with it.
> If I reverted all the changes that lead fonts-urw-base35 to replace
> gsfonts{,-x11}, would you make texlive-fonts-recommended depend on it
> and replace its own copy with symlinks? Maybe it is easier to convince
That I will do after we - the TeX Live team (upstream, not Debian!) -
has taken the new URW fonts. For this we have to evaluate the
metrics.
You mentioned in a previous email "the price of progress" or similar.
While here we are speaking of the chance of breakage of *many* documents
out there relying proper metrics.
Do you want to have Don Knuth coming after you because suddenly the
ps files he creates look weird because the spacing is wrong?
You really should consider the consequences and impact. Changing the
base35 fonts is *not* to be undertaken lightly.
I am in discussion with Karl Berry about that. But as long as none of
us (you, me, Karl, Walter Schmidt, ...) comes up with an evaluation of
the metrics and changes, it will take a bit of time.
My suggestion is:
* upload fonts-urw-base35 without any gsfonts relations whatsoever.
* file bugs against gsfonts(-x11) on transition to fonts-urw-base35
optimally, provide a transition plan, evaluate impact on other
packages, especially with respect to the included glyph coverage
* file bugs against TL (or you did already I guess)
and, if you want and have time and energy
* provide an analysis of the metric changes that have been introduced
together with a rationale for that
ALl the best
Norbert
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