On Sun, 21 Apr 2013 19:43:51 +0000
Mike <deb...@good-with-numbers.com> wrote:

> why then does it come out of full-screen mode? if there really are two 
> different 
> full-screen modes?

Probably because disabling the built-in fullscreen also sends a window resize
command, which is a sign to the window manager to go out of fullscreen as well.

> This is with xfwm4.  BTW, it's not obvious to me how to take the window 
> out of "the window manager's" full-screen mode.

Try Alt+F11.

-- 
With respect,
Roman

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