On Sun, 21 Apr 2013 19:30:48 +0200
Guillem Jover <guil...@debian.org> wrote:

> What I'm planning to do to try to improve the situation is:
> 
>   * Document the change in the man page in master targetting 1.17.x
>     (perhaps 1.16.x too).
>   * Probably add a single warning at the end of the --set-selections
>     processing if any unknown package has been found, prompting the
>     user to consider updating the available database in master
>     targetting 1.17.x.

I think the above two would be incredibly useful.  Imagine if you're
working on your only machine, and your first step is to --set-selections
(this is quite common!).  You don't even have network fully up and
running at this point.  Your usual tools (iceweasol, or what not) are not
handy.  Lynx is a pain for many, if they even know of it.

Offline docs are essential, I'd say.

A mention to check the manpage would solve all problems, as long as the
"how to do this" was easily rectified.

(I'll try your suggestions ASAP, thanks)

>   * Add an entry in <http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/Dpkg/FAQ>.
>   * Clone this to the release-notes so that this gets documented there
>     too.
>   * Possibly, ask nicely the release-team if they'd consider accepting
>     any kind of documentation update for this (doubtful), even if only
>     for r1.
> 
> Anything else, people think might help, I'm all ears.

I don't know what R1 is, compared to 1.16.x and 1.17.x.  And, to
be honest, I'm assuming R1 means "First Wheezy release".

However, I would suggest that any fix that does not see itself in the
first release of Wheezy would almost invalidate the point.  That first
release is where all the pain will happen.

I know freeze is on.  And, I think #2 above (the message) is the optimal
fix.  We can't rely on people having network access to resolve this, when
they may have their only machine down working on a reinstall.

If #2, of something I and others consider a very serious usability issue,
can't be done -- at least /usr/share/doc and 'man dpkg' should mention
something about this issue.

That would really be helpful, inordinately so, and that's my 2 cents.


> 
> Thanks,
> Guillem


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