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> The plan seems a little overflated and some have commented that a > simpler plan would be OK: > > 1) Clint uploads debianutils with "Replaces: passwd > (<=current_version) and the utilities > > > 2) We (eventually at the same time) upload shadow without the utilities > with "Depends: debianutils (>=new_version)" so that passwd > cannot be upgraded if the debianutils with the utilities is not here > > 3) we warn maintainers of shell packages to remove the dependency on > passwd > > 4) when all shell packages have been fixed, we can remove the > versioned dependency on debianutils > > 1) and 2) happening at the same time (provided we build on the same > architecture)) guarantees that upgrades for this architecture will > work fine the day after. > Now that Tomasz has released shadow 4.0.13 and the former version of shadow is ready to enter testing (should happen tomorrow), we are ready to prepare and release 4.0.13-1 The test packages I prepared (http://www.perrier.eu.org/debian/packages) now don't have the utilities AND they Depend on debianutils (>= 2.15). I rebuilt Clint's packages (http://people.debian.org/~schizo/debianutils/) and tried installing both in the same dpkg run...which works like a charm. We now seem really ready to go and fix these bugs. Last green lights to get: -shadow 4.0.12-6 in testing -enough tests on 4.0.13-1 just to be sure we don't break too much stuff We have to be aware that shadow 4.0.13-1 and debianutils 2.15 now have to go to testing together...so each of us should be careful not breaking them too much....and avoid uploads until both reach testing.... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]