Hello,

On Wed, Oct 05, 2005 at 11:11:49PM +0200, jens wrote:
> Package: mldonkey-server
> Version: 2.5.28.1
> Severity: normal
> 
> Yet another one :)

Well, i have tried to play with priority of debconf questions to remove 
technical question for basic user (ie they are still there for 
advanced user).

I will try to explain why, i cannot remove some options.

> 
> In #279030 it was agreed (afaict) that these should be removed from
> debconf. However, they are still used: 
> mldonkey-server/mldonkey_group (set at 'mldonkey')
> mldonkey-server/run_as_user (set at 'mldonkey')
> 

A lot of user use VFAT mounted dir for /var/lib/mldonkey that required
very specific user to be accessed. 


> not 100% sure, but should afaikt also be removed from debconf:
> mldonkey-server/mldonkey_dir (could be set to /var/lib/mldonkey/)

A lot of user use extra disk mounted following some strange layout
(/mnt/free0...). Off course they can do a symlink...

> mldonkey-server/mldonkey_umask (could be set to 0022)

Well, this one is really optional!

> 
> IMHO these should be removed as well (just my 2 cents), because there is
> the mldonkey very own configuration program for this (web ui, gtk or ...). 
> Amule or nicotine also do not come with such questions:

FYI: i never use amule/nicotine and i don't know how they work/what
debconf question they are asking.

Amule and nicotine are GUI clientis, they required to be run as user
running X window. MLDonkey is a daemon running in background. I do
really thinks that installing gedit doesn't require to answer 10 debconf
questions but i don't think that needing to answer 5 questions for
installing openldap/exim4/ntpd is really so hard.

MLDonkey is not a GUI, it requires configuration as a daemon. 
Mldonkey-gui is a GUI and you don't have to answer any debconf questions
for it (as for amule).

> mldonkey-server/client_name
> mldonkey-server/plugin

OK for this two: they are optional.

> mldonkey-server/max_hard_upload_rate
> mldonkey-server/max_hard_download_rate
> 

There is no sane default:
if i set it to 0 (no limit), it can block the internet access (well you
can say that TCP can manage the flow control...). If i set to something
small (1), a lot of user will come and ask me why mldonkey is so slow
(not everybody read README file). I cannot guess if the user got
56k/ADSL/T1 connection, so i really don't know what should be the good
rate...

> 
> This could be removed as well after the group/user settings are fixed:
> mldonkey-server/reown_file
> 
> Do you agree?
> 

See above, i agree on 3 options. But i am still wondering, since
priority has been changed, what is the problem with asking questions ? (
i don't remember exactly but i think i manage to drop the number of
question when only following medium questions to 5).

Debconf questions have been really a long problem: people ask for more
settings/people ask for less settings. I don't know what to choose (and
it is hard to choose).

Please, tell me why you are so keen on removing debconf questions ?

Have a good night
Regard
Sylvain Le Gall


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