Hi Francesca! On Tue, 22 May 2012 15:28:47 +0200, Francesca Ciceri wrote: > On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 02:41:58PM +0200, Luca Capello wrote: >> >> While this is more a discussion internal to the Events Team, I would >> like to raise it up to a broader audience (once and for all, even this >> is only a hope). > > While I appreciate having discussion, I'd like to point out that the > *public* discussion on the issue you're reporting already exists: > https://lists.debian.org/debian-publicity/2012/03/msg00027.html > > Next time, please check the mailing list first. > Don't want to sound rude, but what is the point in writing detailed mail > about changes done in the wiki/doc/webpages if even the members of the > team don't read it?
Point taken, please however note that reading something does not mean you are remembering it (which does not remove my fault). >> Currently, the "entry" page is DebianEvents [1]. I would have preferred >> to simply have it as Events, for two reasons: we are on the Debian wiki >> and most of the events Debian participate are not organized by Debian, >> thus no distinction needed [2]. Nevertheless, this is a minor problem. >> >> [1] <https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEvents> >> [2] <https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEvents#Detailed_information> > > Wait, I don't understand what you're saying it. I mean, yeah, we're on > the Debian wiki, and the events there are all Debian related. So, why is > it a problem to call the page Debian Events? Redundant? Redundancy, confusion (because AFAIK we have no *non*-Debian events) and also we are generating longer-than-needed links. >> That page has a structural problem, given that the information in the >> section "Adding a new event" [3] do not reflect the links just after >> that section. The current instruction advises to use the name >> "de/2012/LinuxTag" (country code, year, event name), while OTOH the >> links below are for events related to a language: >> >> * DebianEvents/de: Events in the German-speaking countries >> * DebianEvents/fr: Events in the French-speaking countries >> * DebianEventsNordic: Events in the Nordic region (i.e. Iceland, Norway, >> Sweden, Finland, Denmark) >> * DebianLatinoamerica/LocalMeetings: meetings in Latin American >> countries >> >> [3] <https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEvents#Adding_a_new_event> > > Correct. > The re-organization of that page is in progress (as you can read in the > mail linked above, sent ~ 2 months ago :)). Thank you, while I had forgot your email, I saw the already-done reorganization work before and after creating the RMLL 2012 page. This is why I decided to publicly write about this problem. > I don't see any problem in changing this thing: it's a wiki, isn't it? > And you are part of the Events team, aren't you? > So, why not just s/countrycode/languagecode/ in the instructions, and > make the (past and future) events page consistent with this change? I think there are some misunderstandings: 1) I prefer the current layout, i.e. country-code/year/event-name. 2) it is a wiki, yes, but *before* any action I would like to have a consensus, otherwise I do work which must be corrected later. 3) I want to *document* the rationale for future references, which will help us should we change the structure. This is why I added the links to the wiki: <https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEvents?action=diff&rev1=40&rev2=41> 4) I have already started re-organizing the other .ch pages I stumbled upon. > Or if you want to discuss it why not replying on the relevant thread or > assuming you didn't noticed it, open a new one? > > I could be horribly wrong, but I think that the BTS is not exactly the > preferred place to propose content changes for the wiki. So, what is the BTS for and why do we have the wiki.debian.org pseudo-package? This is a bug, so I reported it as a bug. The fact that it is also easier to spot Events-related problem via usertags than digging into mailing list archives is a more-than-welcomed feature. Thx, bye, Gismo / Luca
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