Hi Richard,

Benjamin, the Debian gnuserv maintainer forwarded me your bug report.

By the way Benjamin, I've released gnuserv-3.12.7, which just contains
small updates from a more recent XEmacs and some updates to the
README.  I can't remember if it is important enough to include in
Debian...  :-)

>>>>> "Richard" == Richard Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

    Richard> Package: gnuserv
    Richard> Version: 3.12.6-1
    Richard> Severity: wishlist
    Richard> Tags: patch

    Richard> If emacs is not running, the dtemacs script starts it
    Richard> iconified.  But surely if you ran dtemacs you want to
    Richard> actually use emacs, and would prefer it to get the focus?

If you run dtemacs without any arguments, doesn't the invocation of
gnuclient on the last line cause a second frame to appear that isn't
iconified?  It does for me.  The idea is that everything but the last
line ensures there's an Emacs process to talk to, and the last line
then talks to that Emacs.

This is a case of "swings and roundabouts".  That particular dtemacs
script was written for a bunch of university students to use via a
GUI.  The original version had some "smarts" to avoid the iconfied
frame and bring up the requested file (or perform the requested
action) in the original Emacs frame (if there wasn't an Emacs process
already contactable).  However, a student they edited a single file
they would often then close the frame when done, thus exiting Emacs
and negating a good part of the use of gnuserv.  There might have been
an "are you sure" question, but it didn't work well.  Adding the
iconfied frame helped this enormously, once they got used to it (and
stopped closing it).  It lowered the load on the student servers a
great deal...  :-)

Better than this would be to have Emacs run without an initial frame
at all.  I think XEmacs supports this via an -unmapped option.  I
mentioned a desire for a similar GNU Emacs option to RMS in April
2002, but I don't think it has happened.

Oh well...

peace & happiness,
martin



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