Hi Richard, Benjamin, the Debian gnuserv maintainer forwarded me your bug report.
By the way Benjamin, I've released gnuserv-3.12.7, which just contains small updates from a more recent XEmacs and some updates to the README. I can't remember if it is important enough to include in Debian... :-) >>>>> "Richard" == Richard Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Richard> Package: gnuserv Richard> Version: 3.12.6-1 Richard> Severity: wishlist Richard> Tags: patch Richard> If emacs is not running, the dtemacs script starts it Richard> iconified. But surely if you ran dtemacs you want to Richard> actually use emacs, and would prefer it to get the focus? If you run dtemacs without any arguments, doesn't the invocation of gnuclient on the last line cause a second frame to appear that isn't iconified? It does for me. The idea is that everything but the last line ensures there's an Emacs process to talk to, and the last line then talks to that Emacs. This is a case of "swings and roundabouts". That particular dtemacs script was written for a bunch of university students to use via a GUI. The original version had some "smarts" to avoid the iconfied frame and bring up the requested file (or perform the requested action) in the original Emacs frame (if there wasn't an Emacs process already contactable). However, a student they edited a single file they would often then close the frame when done, thus exiting Emacs and negating a good part of the use of gnuserv. There might have been an "are you sure" question, but it didn't work well. Adding the iconfied frame helped this enormously, once they got used to it (and stopped closing it). It lowered the load on the student servers a great deal... :-) Better than this would be to have Emacs run without an initial frame at all. I think XEmacs supports this via an -unmapped option. I mentioned a desire for a similar GNU Emacs option to RMS in April 2002, but I don't think it has happened. Oh well... peace & happiness, martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]