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prompt has very poor contrast
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Package: desktop-base,gdm3
Severity: important
Tags: trixie sid
Control: found -1 desktop-base/13.0.1
Control: found -1 gdm3/48.0-1
X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-gtk-gn...@lists.debian.org
(I think this is really RC since it's a high-visibility issue with our
default desktop's branding, but filing as non-RC for now because I don't
want to prevent the new desktop-base from migrating.)
To reproduce
============
Install trixie with GNOME and gdm3, then add sid as an apt source and
upgrade desktop-base (only) to the version proposed for trixie. Reboot
and wait for the gdm3 login prompt ("greeter" in gdm jargon).
I originally saw this on my mixed unstable/experimental laptop, and
reproduced it on an existing trixie VM for this demonstration, but I'm
confident that this would be reproducible with a fresh installation.
Expected result
===============
gdm3 shows a dark grey background. This is part of GNOME's upstream
visual design, and is currently a flat #222226 in HTML notation; older
GNOME releases used a "noise" texture with some random variation around
a similar average colour. Debian branding is shown below the list of
users, and should be clearly visible. In bookworm we used
/usr/share/images/vendor-logos/logo-text-version-64.png which consists
of a mid grey swirl, a mid grey Debian logotype and a light grey "12",
and still looks good on trixie GNOME's background:
https://people.debian.org/~smcv/temp/2025/trixie-branding/good.png
Compare with the light coloured logos used in distros that have GNOME
as their default desktop environment and therefore gdm as their default
login manager, such as:
* Fedora: https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/default-login-screen/94510
* Ubuntu: https://documentation.ubuntu.com/authd/en/latest/howto/login-gdm/
(ignore the stuff about remote login providers, it's the screenshots
that are of interest)
Actual result
=============
gdm3 shows a dark grey background, as above. We still use
/usr/share/images/vendor-logos/logo-text-version-64.png for the
branding, but now that image is a slightly translucent #1a1a1a, a dark
grey that is very similar to the background and therefore has very low
contrast:
https://people.debian.org/~smcv/temp/2025/trixie-branding/bad.png
Do I assume correctly that it was intentionally changed to a dark colour
so that it would look good in some other context where the Debian 13
branding appears on a light background? The changelog just says "Remove
version from logo" and the commit message just says "Prepare for
upload", so I don't know the reasoning behind this.
logo-text-version-SIZE.png are temporarily missing the version number,
for #1086954, but that's expected: I assume it'll be reinstated as part
of the final Debian 13 branding during hard freeze.
Workaround
==========
Possible solutions can be prototyped by editing
/etc/gdm3/greeter.dconf-defaults to set an arbitrary logo image, then
restarting gdm3 (`sudo systemctl restart gdm.service`) or rebooting.
Possible solutions
==================
We could change gdm3 so it defaults to a different logo image, one that
is a light colour and therefore visible on a dark background.
logo-64.png (just the swirl) is suitable, for now
(https://people.debian.org/~smcv/temp/2025/trixie-branding/light-swirl-only.png)
but I think we probably do
want the swirl + logotype + major version number?
And I'm not sure whether desktop-base aims to guarantee that
logo-SIZE.png is light coloured but logo-text-version-SIZE.png is dark,
which seems an odd distinction to make?
Another possible route is that we could change desktop-base so
logo-text-version-SIZE.png is a light colour that looks good on a dark
background, as it was in Debian 12. That would not be suitable for
non-gdm contexts where it might be displayed on a light background,
though.
Or desktop-base could provide vendor logos in two flavours - one for
dark backgrounds and one for light backgrounds - so that GNOME can
choose the dark-background one and be confident that it will look good?
Or desktop-base could apply an outline to the logos (a dark logo with a
light outline or vice versa) so that they will contrast on any background?
I tried adjusting the picture-uri, picture-options and primary-color
options shown in the default /etc/gdm3/greeter.dconf-defaults, but they
don't have any effect - I think the dark grey is hard-coded as part of
GNOME Shell's visual design, rather than being intended to be
configurable (and we should remove the non-functional options from
/etc/gdm3/greeter.dconf-defaults to avoid confusion). So if we wanted to
use a background image, we would have to diverge from upstream by
patching gnome-shell, which I'm not keen to do.
smcv
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Version: 13.0.2
On Sat, 10 May 2025 at 14:59:45 +0100, Simon McVittie wrote:
Another possible route is that we could change desktop-base so
logo-text-version-SIZE.png is a light colour that looks good on a dark
background, as it was in Debian 12. That would not be suitable for
non-gdm contexts where it might be displayed on a light background,
though.
This seems to have been done in 13.0.2.
Thanks,
smcv
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