Your message dated Sun, 01 Oct 2023 15:20:34 +0000 with message-id <e1qmyfg-0000gx...@fasolo.debian.org> and subject line Bug#934463: fixed in sysvinit 3.08-2 has caused the Debian Bug report #934463, regarding initscripts: consider taking over hwclock policy machinery to be marked as done.
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--- Begin Message ---Package: initscripts Version: 2.95-4 Severity: wishlist Dear Maintainer, Please consider taking over the hwclock related init script (et.al.) from the util-linux package. These init scripts aren't really related to util-linux in any way, they are just the old (sysvinit) *policy* on how to sync the RTC. Unrelated to init systems other inits have chosen to push for another policy (since syncing system clock to hardware clock has been deemed to not be a good solution). This means several packages currently carry overrides to disable the policy shipped in util-linux when not using sysvinit. Basically, the situation is unnessecarily complex and things would be much simpler if the sysvinit policy lived in src:sysvinit. As a bonus this would also mean it's easy for sysvinit maintainers to work on any potential changes / modernizations of their RTC policy. (This would also bring the util-linux package closer to being a "mechanism, not policy" package as I think it should only provide tools and leave it up to others to decide how those tools are used.) I would thus propose that the src:sysvinit package picks up the policy related bits and could for example ship them in the initscripts package. This includes: * /etc/init.d/hwclock.sh * /etc/default/hwclock * the /lib/udev/hwclock-set script and the related udev rule file /lib/udev/rules.d/85-hwclock.rules. BEWARE! That the files under /etc are considered 'conffiles' by dpkg and need special attention to be correctly handled (in a policy compliant way). Please use extra caution and make sure changes are thoroughly reviewed before uploading. (The src:sysvinit didn't have any conffiles in the package last I looked, but rather used a home-brew system to handle it without involving dpkg which is why I'm pointing this out for people who don't have previous experience with how many gotchas there can be related to conffiles.) I think a change such as this should be worked on early in a release cycle which is why I'm filing this bug report now. If work to implement this happens very soon I will offer to lend a hand as a reviewer and could potentially also handle the util-linux side of things (as moving the files will likely need a coordinated upload of both src:sysvinit and src:util-linux). Things that might be useful to look into but should in my opinion be handled as separate issues: - actually modernizing the policy (this bug report is fixed when the ownership is transfered). - /etc/default/hwclock likely have options that are currently or possibly in a not to distant future non-functional as the hwclock tool has changed in ways that makes certain old obscure workarounds no longer applicable and other reasons. Regards, Andreas Henriksson
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--- Begin Message ---Source: sysvinit Source-Version: 3.08-2 Done: Mark Hindley <lee...@debian.org> We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of sysvinit, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive. A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is attached. Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed. If you have further comments please address them to 934...@bugs.debian.org, and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate. Debian distribution maintenance software pp. Mark Hindley <lee...@debian.org> (supplier of updated sysvinit package) (This message was generated automatically at their request; if you believe that there is a problem with it please contact the archive administrators by mailing ftpmas...@ftp-master.debian.org) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2023 12:06:22 +0100 Source: sysvinit Architecture: source Version: 3.08-2 Distribution: experimental Urgency: medium Maintainer: Debian sysvinit maintainers <debian-init-divers...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Changed-By: Mark Hindley <lee...@debian.org> Closes: 934463 Changes: sysvinit (3.08-2) experimental; urgency=medium . * initscripts: take over hwclock machinery from util-linux-extra (Closes: #934463). Checksums-Sha1: a88f4d4e11138f73a7da890ad4cee14d3fc4b4a3 2359 sysvinit_3.08-2.dsc 96f63c817d34f8fa74c91eff16eefdb01c79fefe 137952 sysvinit_3.08-2.debian.tar.xz 2e12386aedc98db0a684e77f263f6c3483455c35 8739 sysvinit_3.08-2_amd64.buildinfo Checksums-Sha256: 30459759c071b34f7f1c0c21a1a420e73cf49db7e99ee740aed67923bdc4dc14 2359 sysvinit_3.08-2.dsc 59d893dd155a4ce0941af6eed0c1733126455901151c9b1e365e9a747270c7fb 137952 sysvinit_3.08-2.debian.tar.xz 63027d235ce4c36db1e05bca89e23f517c951a693a8155df223d37a9d28b60da 8739 sysvinit_3.08-2_amd64.buildinfo Files: 8e80e55e61bbdc20a3585abc7cbcb908 2359 admin optional sysvinit_3.08-2.dsc 6eacec27c906a84946ba24a40e123605 137952 admin optional sysvinit_3.08-2.debian.tar.xz eed50416fc898e23f3dbed9f4700a1f1 8739 admin optional sysvinit_3.08-2_amd64.buildinfo -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEUGwVpCsK9aCoVCPu0opFvzKH1kkFAmUZhDQACgkQ0opFvzKH 1klh2Q/+KQBuw6y1A4LQwA9AyEYi6lLWjyCJfOTnOUNOxuMpTFRYDMPWdBqOhSzN Ij6iKyJcV19etW2KN3fW0QvYsBA/lc6loNqIYHb0mcRh1weVSs/laoYg+XpMmUbJ JDIDHNUVFngHadqeUsHZju+VYhB53l0XC7IYSFvwjWa66WF4D7RQHLhySyRaF3KL VqDrPhlhHHjGSequTGzdJfSVMF0lpe6V2GWOxrMBgcOSuJOjwWQe5G63ujhFQLhR PLc07qJ+6ShV31X3m25eOsmofqkUj5nNDhFQdZzC49OuQbJlISxBZbzSoT1mIT62 igvMrzFnbqe7YumNhfEoCaPdRE2k1CwYRYxvbrABIDLL6XcCB9heEPIA89hD0R2R beHNR2j4Nnht/NfHDICyoiHs9cz7U8g7gvnZ8N/lMOYFMnJCWStliDUTAo7SFZ4R VoPaWIyob/+JnYT4CUYQKQ+pUmsA0U0ilqZPvj885ARdjHqZypYebNrVP66n4Hte 1EbXt/ard7mNp/jJ+5/icFQYg4TcCwVPRfHo+bnn/sk2yK0bSx8bfpzcypA6dTC4 FYI4lvZzH2EbUaqdhC6T+7IieiLqivJADUpt6rUON4yyup/vffiuhR5HUSLO7JKe gVNxcZ9XfCIAqpRO/8O/YYd5Oj9s8/k8duddB0sYz2rFWCxPRvQ= =KmJq -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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