My very large patch for LMTP and Sorting has code to create mailboxes if
they don't exist. It is on and only on. However, if there is a concensus
on a good set of options for turning this on and off, I'll be happy to
code those in!

Aaron


On Sat, 28 Jun 2003, Gianni Mariani wrote:

> Paul Stevens wrote:
>
> > Gianni Mariani wrote:
> >
> >> a) This one is serious because emails are dropped silently.  If
> >> "dbmail-smtp -m BOX" is used and BOX does not exist, then the email
> >> is silently dropped on the floor.
> >
> >
> > This IS serious. I'm also quite sure this didn't occur in earlier
> > releases. IMO delivery should fallback to INBOX should -m BOX specify
> > a non-existant mailbox.
> >
> > This is fixed in the debian packages.
>
>
> Are the debian packages significantly different ?
>
> >> b) If an account exists but the mailbox does not, there should be a
> >> way of creating one on demand.  For example, if I create an alias like:
> >>
> >>            test_dbmail: "| /usr/local/sbin/dbmail-smtp -m test_dbmail
> >> -u gianni"
> >>
> >> If the mailbox "test_dbmail" in account "gianni" does not exist,
> >> (before the patch it would silently fail) it will abort.  I suggest
> >> that another command line option "-c" for "Create mailbox on demand"
> >> would be good.
> >
> >
> > Some patches to remedy this have floated by on the list. None of those
> > made it into CVS, alas. Personally I think this belongs in dbmail.conf
>
> dbmail.conf works too, however it could be nice to have on a per alias
> basis.
>
> >
> >> c) If the postgresql database goes down, imapd does not recover when
> >> the database comes back and requires a re-start of dbmail-imapd.  It
> >> would be nice if dbmail-imapd recovered from database re-starts.
> >
> >
> > Mmm. I'm pretty sure this works as expected for mysql.
> > Restarting/reconnecting the client will probably also fix your problem.
>
>
> It's probably not too hard to fix.
>
> >> d) imaps (imap over SSL) would really be nice.
> >
> >
> > Use stunnel for now.
>
>
> I keep forgetting about stunnel, I'll give it a go.
>
> >> f) scrubbing the database really need a cron job ?  (reminds me - I
> >> need to check to see if it the
> >> dbmail-maintenance does a VACUUM;).
> >
> >
> > It does when you use -c
> >
> > Also, remember to apply extra indices and contraints to your tables.
> >
> > For postgres you could use:
> >
> >
> > create index name_idx on mailboxes(name);
> > create index owner_id_idx on mailboxes(owner_idnr);
> > create index is_subscribed_idx on mailboxes(is_subscribed);
> > create index mailbox_id_idx on messages(mailbox_idnr);
> > create index seen_flag_idx on messages(seen_flag);
> > create index unique_id_idx on messages(unique_id);
> > create index status_idx on messages(status);
> >
> Yep, they look good.
>
> But the constraints have problems with postgresql 7.2.3. I'll need
> postgresql 7.3.3 for these.
>
> >
> > alter table messages add foreign key (mailbox_idnr) references
> >   mailboxes(mailbox_idnr) on delete cascade;
> > alter table mailboxes add foreign key (owner_idnr) references
> >   users(user_idnr) on delete cascade;
> > alter table messageblks add foreign key (message_idnr) references
> >   messages(message_idnr) on delete cascade;
> >
> > Esp the indices will improve performance dramatically under anything
> > more than trivial loads. The contraints are just for good dba
> > meassure. A full dbmail-maintenance run will also provide the same
> > functionality.
>
> The only thing dbmail-maintenance is good for then is vacuum.... :)
>
> >> g) There should be an config value to use a different port for
> >> connecting to postgresql.  I like to run different version of
> >> postgresql on the same machine and I place them on different ports.
> >> Currently dbmail only has "host" "db" "user" and "pass" parameters.
> >
> >
> > Concur. Same goes for mysql.
> >
> >> I'm now looking for some migration tools, any suggestions welcome.  I
> >> would like a few command line tools to mess with imap servers, create
> >> mailboxes, transfer emails between boxes etc.
> >
> >
> > I've used the toolset from uw-imapd myself (imapxfer now called
> > mailutil from the uw-imap package) for moving stuff from one imap
> > server to another.
> >
> I also came across imapsync which uses the perl module
> Mail::IMAPClient.  Enough rope here for almost anything.
>
>
> Thanks for the suggestion on the indexes and constraints.  That really
> makes it quite alot better.
>
> G
>
>
>
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