At 11:48 AM +0200 4/5/00, Tom Vogt wrote: >Tim May wrote: >> It isn't forced on everyone. I don't have or use Windows. (At least >> not since the execrable 1.0). >> >> Get your facts straight. > >get real. while there are no guns involved, and thus the word "force" >might be debatable, the amount of choice available to a) end-users and >b) resellers is far from what it would be in a theoretical free market. I'll let you and our othe socialist, Aaron, blither to each other about "theoretical free markets." Noncoercion is about issues of force, not whether your local vendor offers the choice you'd like him to offer. Oh, and there is no acceptance of your point that in a "theoretical free market" there is some equipartition of suppliers such as you suggest there would be. Which is why Cisco and Intel have about 80-90% of their markets, about as expected. There are more choices in the OS market than there are in the microprocessor market (the viable micros, that is). Ditto for routers. And look at relational data bases. Oracle probably has 90% of that market, with Sybase and Imprise and Microsoft picking up the crumbs. Should Oracle be broken up or penalized just because 90% of sales and corporate deals go with Oracle? Guff about "theoretical free markets" is just Marxist rhetoric. --Tim May -- ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 831-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, "Cyphernomicon" | black markets, collapse of governments.

