On Sun, Aug 07, 2016 at 01:33:51AM -0600, Mirimir wrote: > On 08/07/2016 12:12 AM, Georgi Guninski wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 06, 2016 at 03:30:19PM -0600, Mirimir wrote: > >> >From <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faster-than-light#Quantum_mechanics>: > >> > >>> information faster than light. _According to the no-communication > >>> theorem these phenomena do not allow true communication; they only > > > > Thanks for the explanations and the papers. > > > > Where is the bug in Zenaan's idea about array of photons and > > Observed + Not Observed = 1 bit? > > I think that's the next bit that you didn't quote: > > > they only let two observers in different locations see the > > same system simultaneously, without any way of controlling > > what either sees. > > You can establish that both observers saw an entangled wave function > collapse, after the fact. But before the wave function collapses, > neither one can know what they'll see, and so they also can't know what > the other will see.
But, apparently, they can predict what the other will see with > 85% accuracy, whilst theory says they should only be able to do so with 75% accuracy. So, each side tests their respective entangled photon (85% certainty of what the other side saw), then does it all again (another 85%), giving: 85% + 85% = 169% probability that each will "guess" what the other side saw! That sounds pretty close to certainty to me... PS: I'm sure someone can do the math better than I... but hopefully you get the idea - each side "simultaneously" 'observes' their 'half' of an entangled photon pair, say each second, and use these to reduce the uncertainty, thereby reaching "1 bit" of information transfer...
