Bill Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> GBLX.NET - Looks like you've killed the alladvantage.com spammers!  Thanks!
> If you haven't, I can send you the original to the spam this user is
> complaining about.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

No they haven't. The wankers at alladvantage.com are just violating
protocol by firewalling ICMP packets involved in tracerouting and
pinging their sites. Telnetting to port 80 still presents a
connection.

GBLX should terminate their service just for that, in my opinion.

> The more interesting problem is what to do about 
>       http://www.alladvantage.com/ 
> which is the spamhaus that this spammer and many others use.
> You can send them a complaint, and they'll tell you they'll drop that
> bad bad bad user's account, but I haven't seen any evidence they'll
> stop doing promoting spammers, because that's their business.
> On the other hand "tracert alladvantage.com" gets as far as gblx.net,
> and then dies with "Destination Net Unreachable", so their hosting center has
> probably done the right thing, or else they're being deservedly mailbombed.

As long as their provider, GBLX, is getting money for feeding them, I
don't really expect that they will be dropped. And because GBLX is
presumably a large provider, their upstream probably doesn't want to
drop *them*, and it just gets worse and worse.

The Internet just needs a maturity upgrade. That's impossible and
strongarm enforcement of it is not desirable, so the next idea which 
springs to mind is creating privlidged, entrance and access 
restricted communities and simply conducting business in them. Such a
system also could have integrated strong crypto, and other
enhancements. 





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