Declan McCullagh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Jim may be a great guy (and I've enjoyed reading his articles in the 
>past), but it does not excuse misstatements in the piece Matt 
>circulated.
>
>At 02:56 4/28/2000 -0400, Matthew Gaylor wrote:
>>In October 1999, members of the international Internet Engineering 
>>Task Force revealed that the FBI was pressuring them to create a 
>>"surveillance-friendly" architecture for Internet communications. 
>>The Bureau wanted the Task Force to
>
>This is baldly incorrect. The FBI did not pressure them; the IETF's 
>move was a pre-emptive one.
>
>After the IETF said they would consider it, the FBI told me in an 
>interview that they supported the move. Bovard has his timing 
>backwards.

I wouldn't necessarily discount the FBI making public media 
statements while privately working for a "surveillance-friendly" 
architecture.  Perhaps Jim can illuminate his point?

>>Last fall news broke about the existence of Echelon, a spy 
>>satellite system run by the National Security Agency along with the 
>>United Kingdom, Australia,
>
>Last fall? What about our Wired coverage from fall 1998?
>
>http://www.politechbot.com/cgi-bin/politech.cgi?name=echelon

I too pointed out to Jim that the Echelon story really broke much 
earlier.  I pointed out that my private mailing list (Freematt's 
Alerts) first mentioned Echelon in 1996.

At 12:35 PM -0500 12/14/96, Matthew Gaylor wrote:
>X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Date: Sat, 14 Dec 1996 12:35:00 -0500
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthew Gaylor)
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthew Gaylor)
>Subject: Echelon: The Global Surveillance System
>
>EXPOSING THE GLOBAL SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM by Nicky Hager
>
>------ The article as it apears in hard copy in the magazine also includes
>the following sidebars: --"NSA'S BUSINESS PLAN: GLOBAL ACCESS" by Duncan
>Campbell --GREENPEACE WARRIOR: WHY NO WARNING? and --NZ's PM Kept in the
>Dark by Nicky Hager


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