On Wed, 1 Mar 2000, Jim Burnes wrote:
> Apparently we have different definitions of 'protection' running
> around here. Active vs. passive protection I suppose in your
> world.
I live in the same world you do. I make no distinction between active and
passive. The reality is the SC said that if you call the polie (and it can
be extended to them not even being there) and they don't show up in time
to prevent the crime they aren't responsible for the crime. You can't, and
shouldn't be able to, sue them for damages.
To expect society at large to pay for your personal body guard is simply
stupid.
> I highly question your definition of protection when cleanup and
> enforcement somehow leads to protection. Maybe in some vague "1984"
> sense. The cops would literally have to be seen to be everywhere
> at once for the perps to be deterred.
Police do much more than 'clean up' after the fact. Even if every other
person was a cop there would still be crime - look at Romania's history
under the communist regime. Did the fact that nearly every other person
was on the Stasi payroll deter crime? No, it only opened up opportunities
to corrupt the government.
> In that sense protection would be a contract with the 'people' in
> a collective sense, much the way the right of the 'people' to
> keep and bear arms is seen by some as collective.
Police are members of that 'people' too. The Constitution, state
constitutions, city charters, etc. are exactly that - contracts between
the people to provide services deemed of mutual need and support.
> I don't believe in collective contracts. If I didn't sign it,
> its not valid.
Then you have no civil liberties such as privacy (4th), freedom of speech
or religion (the 1st), to own guns (the 1st), or many others.
Your proposition is less than poorly reasoned.
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