Lizard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Two things:I have read David Brins arguments. I despise them.
>Unfortunately, I also can't refute them. :) It's annoying to be confronted
>with something you really don't like but also can't logically deny.

I agree.  The surveillance state is coming whether we want it to or 
not.  The real danger IMHO lies in only giving the power to view the 
surveillance net to the government.  As an example, currently you can 
view the traffic cameras for the state of Maryland 
http://www.dpwt.com/jpgcap/camintro.html.  Here is a good example of 
the state giving the public access to monitor public roads (useful 
for checking driving conditions or congestion).  Obviously privacy is 
something less than it was prior to the installation of the camera 
network.

Declan McCullagh has a nice photo of a Times Square NYPD camera.

http://www.shorten.com/image/950-3/timessq-cam.html

And as most of us already know, most every London intersection and 
most major destinations are already under camera surveillance. 
Society is going to change with these technologies.  Privacy and 
anonymity can no longer be taken for granted.   The choice is do we 
let an elite or various governmental police state agencies only have 
access or do we have an open society and open the camera networks to 
the public at large?  I say open.

Regards,  Matt-


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