On Mon, Jun 29, 2026 at 1:12 PM Soren <[email protected]> wrote: > Doug, thank you very much for your reply. I will try to answer adequately. > >> Try using "python -m venv --without-pip VENV" > > > I will try that. ... It runs with no output. Exit status is "0". > > I will add some diagnostic (?) info here. When I run the command above (with --without-pip), and the target directory name "beleriand" doesn't yet exist (your example is "VENV"), I get a directory hierarchy populated like this:
$ ls -ARBCpo beleriand beleriand: total 5.0K drwxrwxr-x+ 1 soren 0 Jun 30 12:10 bin/ drwxrwxr-x+ 1 soren 0 Jun 30 12:10 include/ drwxrwxr-x+ 1 soren 0 Jun 30 12:10 lib/ lrwxrwxrwx 1 soren 3 Jun 30 12:10 lib64 -> lib/ -rw-rw-r--+ 1 soren 205 Jun 30 12:10 pyvenv.cfg beleriand/bin: total 24K -rw-r--r--+ 1 soren 2.2K Jun 30 12:10 activate -rw-r--r--+ 1 soren 957 Jun 30 12:10 activate.csh -rw-r--r--+ 1 soren 2.2K Jun 30 12:10 activate.fish -rw-r--r--+ 1 soren 8.9K Jun 30 12:10 Activate.ps1 lrwxrwxrwx 1 soren 7 Jun 30 12:10 python -> python3 lrwxrwxrwx 1 soren 16 Jun 30 12:10 python3 -> /usr/bin/python3 lrwxrwxrwx 1 soren 7 Jun 30 12:10 python3.12 -> python3 beleriand/include: total 0 drwxrwxr-x+ 1 soren 0 Jun 30 12:10 python3.12/ beleriand/include/python3.12: total 0 beleriand/lib: total 0 drwxrwxr-x+ 1 soren 0 Jun 30 12:10 python3.12/ beleriand/lib/python3.12: total 0 drwxrwxr-x+ 1 soren 0 Jun 30 12:10 site-packages/ beleriand/lib/python3.12/site-packages: total 0 The creation of the beleriand/bin/activate file is the thing I am noting here. I would be able to enter a venv with what's been written to disk, I just wouldn't be able to install more python packages to it. So this is progress (questionable progress); if I can just get pip to set up I will be in business. Thank you for your thoughts on this. - Soren -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple
