And this was exactly it. I downloaded the latest UPX version, and it crashed on 
startup. I downloaded the Linux version on another host, copied the setup 
program to that host and extracted it there. NOW I can update Cygwin...

Brian Cowan
HCL Software
Technical Specialist, ClearCase SWAT
brian.co...@hcl.com


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From: Jon Turney <jon.tur...@dronecode.org.uk>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2022 1:12 PM
To: cygwin@cygwin.com; Brian Cowan <brian.co...@hcl.com>
Subject: Re: Does the Cygwin setup program do internal sanity checks on startup?

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On 25/08/2022 17:52, Adam Dinwoodie wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 08:46:10PM +0000, Brian Cowan via Cygwin wrote:
 >>Does the Cygwin setup program do internal sanity checks on startup?

Not as such.  And if it did, the behaviour when the fails should be to say 
those checks have failed, rather than crash apparently randomly...

>> Why would I ask that question? Because I have a host running a
>> hodgepodge of company-mandated security software, and -- only on that
>> host -- the Cygwin setup tool crashes...
>>
>> Oddities:
>> 1. The crash generates 3 dump files when I use procdump, which is odd
>> since I "normally" only get 2 identical dumps from procdump.
>> 2. A Websense ForcePoint DLP DLL is loaded in the process space,
>> apparently through DLL injection.
>> 3. There seem to be 3 threads started, only one of which is the setup
>> program's "main" function. I had to get that out of a Process Monitor
>> log since the dump files are largely content free.
>> 4. The crash is unique to the setup program. Nothing else appears to
>> fail.
>>
>> The crash is an "illegal instruction" dump, which of course doesn't
>> make a lot of sense... This could be one of the other security
>> packages/policies on this host being "helpful."
>>
>> I need ammunition to take to my internal Mordak's so I can update
>> Cygwin... Sure I can use WSL, but not for everything.
>
> This sounds like classic "BLODA": applications that interfere with how
> Cygwin provides *nix compatibility.  There's more info in the FAQs at
> https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcygw
> in.com%2Ffaq%2Ffaq.html%23faq.using.bloda&amp;data=05%7C01%7Cbrian.cow
> an%40hcl.com%7C0bc9158dc671450d207e08da86bcde4c%7C189de737c93a4f5a8b686f4ca9941912%7C0%7C0%7C637970442994701514%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=k%2FghFN8u0Yp5xDsUp8fJ61uceTUpwLEKdF8SRMCFGOk%3D&amp;reserved=0,
>  but in short it seems very likely that this problem is caused by some 
> security software running on this system.

This does indeed sound like interference by some other software.

But the setup program is not a Cygwin executable (it's not linked with the 
cygwin DLL because (i) it's not present before setup has installed it, and (ii) 
updating that DLL from setup while setup is using is problematic...

Note that the Cygwin setup executable as distributed is packed with UPX, which 
could very well interfere with the expectations of a poorly written injected 
DLL.

(You can reverse that compression by running 'upx -d' on the setup
executable)
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