On Oct 10 18:06, Christopher Faylor wrote: > On Sun, Oct 09, 2011 at 07:58:15PM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: > >On Sat, Oct 08, 2011 at 05:39:20PM -0400, Ken Brown wrote: > >>Attached is a slight modification of the STC, in which I set stdin for > >>the bash subprocess to /dev/null. With this modification, the program > >>works as expected (and as on Linux) with cygwin-1.7.9, but the same > >>problem as before occurs with the latest snapshot. > > > >I can duplicate this problem. I'll take a look. > > > >Thanks for the STC. > > As far as I can tell, this is arguably a bug in bash. It's also an > annoying compatibility problem between Linux and Cygwin. > > When the tty layer in Cygwin was first developed, the model (either in > my head or in reality) was "If you don't have a tty and open a tty, that > becomes your controlling tty". But, apparently that model changed over > time to something more sensical where you have to explicitly use > ioctl(TIOCSCTTY) to set up a controlling terminal.
I don't quite understand this. The "If you don't have a tty and open a tty, that becomes your controlling tty" is standard POSIX behaviour, isn't it? SUSv4 open writes: O_NOCTTY If set and path identifies a terminal device, open() shall not cause the terminal device to become the controlling terminal for the process. If path does not identify a terminal device, O_NOCTTY shall be ignored. The Linux man page contains basically the same. > On Linux systems > that would presumably be done via login(1). We don't normally run login > on Cygwin, though. > > The problem is that when there is no controlling tty, bash uses a > fallback mechanism to find the name of the tty by opening the tty > associated with fd 0. It does this without setting the O_NOCTTY > flag and, so, the act of opening the fd assigns a controlling > terminal. That sounds correct to me. Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Project Co-Leader cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Red Hat -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple