On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Dan Burton <danburton.em...@gmail.com> wrote:
> At the risk of useless bikeshedding... might I suggest "r" as a mnemonic for
> "result"?
>
> foldl :: (a -> r -> r) -> r -> [a] -> r
> foldr :: (r -> a -> r) -> r -> [a] -> r
>
> -- Dan Burton

'r' is the version I originally used myself (see reddit). But then you
have to change the foldrs too, and quite possibly a lot of other
functions, and get dragged into a big discussion over when is 'r' a
better mnemonic than 'b' and when is it not.

Simply swapping 'a' and 'b' in the left folds captures most of the
benefit for least cost.

Same goes for most of the other suggestions I have seen (I don't find
the existing signatures actively confusing, merely suboptimal), but if
sentiment is overwhelmingly in favor of making further changes I can
be swayed. For now I wanted to propose a minimal change with the best
chance of attracting a broad consensus.

>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Andreas Abel <andreas.a...@ifi.lmu.de>
> wrote:
>>
>> +1 to all.
>>
>>
>> On 14.10.12 6:53 PM, Bas van Dijk wrote:
>>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>> There are a few other functions in Data.List that could benefit from
>>> the same treatment:
>>>
>>> mapAccumL :: (acc -> x -> (acc, y)) -> acc -> [x] -> (acc, [y])
>>> mapAccumL :: (acc -> a -> (acc, b)) -> acc -> [a] -> (acc, [b])
>>>
>>> mapAccumR :: (acc -> x -> (acc, y)) -> acc -> [x] -> (acc, [y])
>>> mapAccumR :: (acc -> a -> (acc, b)) -> acc -> [a] -> (acc, [b])
>>>
>>> genericLength :: Num i => [b] -> i
>>> genericLength :: Num i => [a] -> i
>>>
>>> genericSplitAt :: Integral i => i -> [b] -> ([b], [b])
>>> genericSplitAt :: Integral i => i -> [a] -> ([a], [a])
>>>
>>> genericIndex :: Integral a => [b] -> a -> b
>>> genericIndex :: Integral i => [a] -> i -> a
>>>
>>> I'm not sure if we should change mapAccumL/R since 'a' and 'acc' are
>>> maybe too similar.
>>>
>>> Bas
>>>
>>> On 14 October 2012 16:28, Gábor Lehel <illiss...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Currently we have:
>>>>
>>>>      foldl :: (a -> b -> a) -> a -> [b] -> a
>>>>
>>>>      foldr :: (a -> b -> b) -> b -> [a] -> b
>>>>
>>>> I find this confusing. My brain doesn't do automatic alpha-renaming,
>>>> so I end up thinking that these types are very different because they
>>>> look very different. In fact, they are almost the same.
>>>> Embarrassingly, it took me longer than it took to understand monads,
>>>> GADTs, PolyKinds, and several other things before I realized it!
>>>>
>>>> So I propose that we use 'a' consistently to denote the type of the
>>>> list elements, and 'b' to denote the type of the result:
>>>>
>>>>      foldl :: (b -> a -> b) -> b -> [a] -> b
>>>>
>>>>      foldr :: (a -> b -> b) -> b -> [a] -> b
>>>>
>>>> making it obvious that the only difference is the order of parameters
>>>> to the accumulator.
>>>>
>>>> The total change would be to replace
>>>>
>>>>      Prelude.foldl :: (a -> b -> a) -> a -> [b] -> a
>>>>      Prelude.scanl :: (a -> b -> a) -> a -> [b] -> [a]
>>>>      Data.List.foldl' :: (a -> b -> a) -> a -> [b] -> a
>>>>      Data.Foldable.foldl :: (a -> b -> a) -> a -> t b -> a
>>>>      Data.Foldable.foldl' :: (a -> b -> a) -> a -> t b -> a
>>>>
>>>> with
>>>>
>>>>      Prelude.foldl :: (b -> a -> b) -> b -> [a] -> b
>>>>      Prelude.scanl :: (b -> a -> b) -> b -> [a] -> [b]
>>>>      Data.List.foldl' :: (b -> a -> b) -> b -> [a] -> b
>>>>      Data.Foldable.foldl :: (b -> a -> b) -> b -> t a -> b
>>>>      Data.Foldable.foldl' :: (b -> a -> b) -> b -> t a -> b
>>>>
>>>> I've attached a patch.
>>>>
>>>> Discussion period: 2 weeks
>>>>
>>>> Previously discussed at:
>>>> http://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/10q2ls/
>>>>
>>>> --
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