On 2014-04-27, at 9:43 AM, ianG <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 25/04/2014 16:36 pm, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote:

>> I hated X.509 when it was first being introduced, and much preferred PGP’s 
>> “Web of Trust”. I still hate X.509 for all of the usual reasons, but I now 
>> have much more sympathy for the design choices. It fails at its goal of not 
>> demanding unrealistic from ordinary users, but at least it tries attempts to 
>> do so.

> There is a slight problem with goals here.  PKI was never designed for
> ordinary users.

We happen to live on a planet where most users are ordinary users.

> If you read the original documentation of how PKI was
> organised before the web-PKI was invented, it talks about how each
> relying party has to enter into a contract and verify that the CPS
> provides the answer they are looking for.

Interesting point. Some of that history is now coming back to me.

> When they did the web-PKI however they threw away all of the reliance
> contract requirements, or buried them, but kept the language of trust.

> As you point out, they had to do this because ordinary users won't go
> through the process of CPS and contract review.

And so other than the terminology I used, I think that my point still
stands: “Web-PKI" is terrible for all of the familiar reasons, but at least
it tries to provide something that just might work for ordinary users.

Cheers,

-j


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