Re: [Crm-sig] E-VOTE Issue 683

[Martin Doerr via Crm-sig]

On 2/25/2026 3:42 PM, Christian-Emil Smith Ore via Crm-sig wrote:
Most 683 is ok. The relative dimension examples are not mentioned in 
the issue text pointed to in Eleni's email
So it appears to me as well!

*O33 is relative to (has relative dimension)*
Domain:
S25 Relative Dimension
Range:
S15 Observable Entity
Subproperty of:
E54 Dimension: O12i is dimension of (has dimension): S15 Observable Entity
Superproperty of:
E26 Angle. O34 has vertex (is vertex of): S15 Observable Entity
Quantification:
many to many, necessary (2,n:0,n)
I am confused🙂
The proposed example is:
The Earth /has relative dimension/ the distance between the Moon and 
the Earth. (S10) (‘Lunar Laser Ranging experiments’, 2024)

Shouldn't an example illustrate the cardinality? In the example there 
is one instance of S15 and one instance of S25
The new examples are the following:

§The distance between the Moon and the Earth /is relative to /the Moon. 
[The distance to the Moon can be measured with millimeter precision] 
(‘Lunar Laser Ranging experiments’, 2024)

§The distance between the Moon and the Earth /is relative to/ The Earth 
(E18). (‘Lunar Laser Ranging experiments’, 2024)

§The angle between the Sun and Moon with a half-moon at daylight as 
measured by Aristarchus of Samos on an unknown day around 280 B.C. /is 
relative to/ the Moon (E18)

(Berggren and Sidoli 2007).

§The angle between the Sun and Moon with a half-moon at daylight as 
measured by Aristarchus of Samos on an unknown day around 280 B.C. /is 
relative to/ the Sun (E18)

(Berggren and Sidoli 2007).

Two properties for the same dimension, each, isn't it? I reverted the 
order in the example to the forward property to make the repetition of 
the domain clear. Therefore the proposed change.

Best,

Martin

Best,
Christian-Emil

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*Fra:* Crm-sig <crm-sig-boun...@ics.forth.gr> på vegne av Eleni 
Tsouloucha via Crm-sig <crm-sig@ics.forth.gr>
*Sendt:* tirsdag 24. februar 2026 13:49
*Til:* CRM-SIG <crm-sig@ics.forth.gr>
*Emne:* Re: [Crm-sig] E-VOTE Issue 683
Dear all,

On account of having received very few responses, we're extending the 
voting period until 27 February.
Please take a moment to review/comment/vote.

All the best,
Eleni

On Mon, Feb 2, 2026 at 12:03 PM Eleni Tsouloucha 
<tsoulo...@ics.forth.gr <mailto:tsoulo...@ics.forth.gr>> wrote:

    Dear all,

    Following the admission of S21 Measurement. O39 observed dimension
    (was observed in): E54 Dimension to CRMsci for recording the
    dimensions of instances of S15 Observable Entity, observed via S21
    Measurement, in CRMsci V3.0, the SIG appointed Martin Doerr with
    providing example use-cases for it (for details see issue *683
    
<https://cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-683-new-property-oxx7-observed-dimension-was-observed-in>*).

    To this end, additional examples making use of S26 Angle (isA S25
    Relative Dimension isA E54 Dimension) are given for S21
    Measurement and O24 measured (was measured by), as well as for the
    newly admitted property (O39 observed dimension).

    You are invited to read, provide feedback and vote on them. See
    *here
    
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1s1i3HC83V5o6-1k_pWD86AyVFZ2x40mtdsAcZKFyW-I/edit?usp=sharing>
    *for the proposal and *register your vote in the google form
    
<https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeQqYWOzguJ4gSM5XC4XpCCNGG9U0EBrKFnGhoO6Kuno8S3yA/viewform?usp=publish-editor>*.


    You have until *20 February* to do so. The new examples will
    appear in V3.1 of CRMsci –which should be a stable release.

    All the best,

    --
    Eleni Tsouloucha
    Philologist - MA Linguistics & Language Technologies
    Center for Cultural Informatics
    Information Systems Laboratory - Institute of Computer Science
    Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH)

    Address: N. Plastira 100, GR-70013 Heraklion, Grece
    email: tsoulo...@ics.forth.gr <mailto:tsoulo...@ics.forth.gr>,
    eleni.crm....@gmail.com <mailto:eleni.crm....@gmail.com>
    Tel: +30 2810391488



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Eleni Tsouloucha
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Center for Cultural Informatics
Information Systems Laboratory - Institute of Computer Science
Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH)

Address: N. Plastira 100, GR-70013 Heraklion, Grece
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