very interesting idea to write the manual first :)

with UpStage, we are waiting for the release of a majorly altered & enhanced media management system, & as this means rewriting half the manual i thought, this is a good time to transfer the manual to flossmanuals; so i started it, then i stopped because the students who are doing the coding are behind schedule. however, now i think i might just go ahead & write it anyway (with others hopefully contributing) & point the students to it to to get them inspired & also perhaps pre-empt some things that might have needed to be changed later.

h : )

On 21/02/11 7:30 AM, Christopher Adams wrote:
Mushon,

That is a really fine and provocative suggestion on your part—to write about software that does not exist but should. It seeks the excluded middle between the Floss Manuals which are too perfunctory on the one hand and too presumptuous on the other /(An Open Web,/ which I also worked on, being a species of the latter).

LGM would be a great opportunity to see these possibilities played out.

- Christopher


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On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 1:41 PM, [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    I totally agree Mushon. Totally. Manuals are dead. Atrophied. Even
    worse when they get printed.

    Yes, totally, make future manuals, then fill in the blanks to them.

    That is totally the approach I took in participating in the open
    web book:

    http://openweb.flossmanuals.net/

    There is a book sprint in Toronto by adam on the web from the 7 -
    12...should talk with adam to see if possible to do one at LGM before
    or after.

    So what would the future manual look like? Ideas for that?

    Jon

    On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 11:30 PM, Mushon Zer-Aviv
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
    >
    >
    > On Feb 21, 2011, at 4:17, Gregory Pittman <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
    >
    > All fodder for discussion at LGM. Certainly we need to get out
    of the dark
    > ages of documentation as an afterthought.
    >
    > Greg
    >
    > This is actually a huge issue I recently discussed with Adam
    Hyde of Floss
    > Manuals. FM was initially established to address a blind-spot
    for Floss —
    > documentation. It developed the book sprint documentation
    methodology which
    > I am sure you guys are familiar with.
    > Last year I participated in "Collaborative Futures" the first
    book initiated
    > by FM that was not documenting a procedure but describing the
    past, present
    > and future of open networked collaboration. It was much much
    harder, but
    > there was something there that really clicked. And after a
    second sprint on
    > the book I actually think it's a quite recommended read. (and it
    is always
    > available for further editing)
    > What I proposed to Adam is that FM could start experimenting in
    writing
    > manuals for software that was not developed yet. Basically
    asking "how would
    > we like it to work?" before we say "this is how do you need to
    use it." This
    > would actually be addressing another blind-spot for Floss which is
    > strategy.
    > I know Adam is really excited about this idea and maybe LGM
    could be the
    > first place to try it out. Do consider it would probably not
    work the first
    > time and would need some iterations but it could be a much needed
    > intervention into a process that we all agree needs some
    challenging.
    > The infrequent lurker,
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