> > > > I finally got motivated to move away from crypt passwords since on my

> > 
> > > > system that limits the passwords to 8 characters.  What I settled on was
> > > > SHA, since it seems to be supported everywhere I need it.  
> > > > Unfortunately,
> > > > I can't get it to work anywhere and I can't tell why.
> > > > 
> > > > I store my account data in MySQL.  I changed the contents of my 
> > > > encrypted 
> > > password field (that was working 100% with crypt passwords) to look like 
> this:
> > > > 
> > > > {SHA}9afab6adfc0ec3d458fa314ddfd9b764e963144f
> > > 
> > > This is MySQL-specific hex-encoded passwords.
> > > 
> > > For Courier to recognize SHA passwords, they have to be base64-encoded, 
> > > not 
> > > hex-encoded, like it's done by OpenLDAP, and other systems.
> > 
> > Ah, I see.  That kind of encoding is also what PHP does by default unless 
> > you 
> > ask for the raw hash in PHP5+.
> > 
> > Does anyone know if there is any way to produce a base64-encoded SHA hash 
> using 
> > MySQL?  Does anyone here use MySQL and something other than crypt 
> > passwords?  
> > What do others do to avoid the 8 character limit (ideally, I like SSHA or 
> > something else where a salt can be used)?
> 
> Bump.
> 
> Can anyone explain what they use to host passwords with more than 8 
> characters 
> in a MySQL-backed virtual accounts system?  Most tutorials/howto guides 
> mostly 
> avoid the topic completely.  I also use pam-mysql for sasl authentication, 
> which 
> limits my choices, but it seems to support SHA passwords.  Is the only way to 
> make base64-encoded SHA passwords to write a PHP script (PHP 5+ only) to do 
> it 
> the long way or learn to do it in another language???

So is everyone just using plain crypt?  Does anyone care about better password 
security??

I did a little bit more looking today and I see that pam-mysql supports system 
crypt WITH md5.  I think (but have not tested) that this means that it takes an 
md5 of the password first and then crypts it.  (Note that I hate to think it 
does the opposite, because if you have the 8 character limit in crypt(), 
crypting it and THEN taking the md5 won't solve that problem!)  Does anyone 
know for sure how it works?

Since feedback seems in short supply, I think I will try this some time soon, 
but the outstanding question is if Courier can be taught how to deal with this 
kind of "MD5CRYPT" password format???


      

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