--- Leon Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sunday 17 March 2002 19:03, SI Reasoning wrote:
> > --- Warly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Mandrake Linux is based on a fixed date releasing
> >> due to market constraints (distributor/supplier
> >> schedules). As a consequence the release date was
> >> scheduled 3 months ago. On this date we have a
> >> very little margin of 2 or 3 days, but not more.
> 
> > My probem is not as much the release of software
> that
> > is not polished, as much as the fact that it never
> > gets there after release either. If work continued
> on
> > 8.2, squashing bugs, fixing annoyances, until it
> truly
> > does reach stable... then by the time 8.3 came
> around
> > (or 9.0), administrators could feel comfortable
> > installing 8.2.
> 
> You seem to be a ssuming a stable target. Between
> now and 9.0, KDE3 and 
> Gnome2 will stabilise, grow applications, and be
> begging for inclusion in the 
> distribution. Mandrake is always aiming for a moving
> target, and has to in 
> order to remain relevant; discount your expectations
> accordingly.
> 
> Cheers; Leon
> 

I understand that, but I also understand that business
os and apps are a different beast than consumer. A
consumer will often times run through 2 or 3 changes
before a business does. There are still quite a few
businesses running wordperfect 5.1 still (probably the
 last stable release of that product). I also act
accordingly, I have been trying to ride out NT4 with
the idea that I would replace those workstations with
Mandrake once it becomes stable. I am becoming to
wonder if that will ever happen. I understand that
Linux is growing and maturing very fast and I
personally enjoy the ride, however businesses depend
on stability. When people are under the stress of day
to day business they want to learn something once and
use it the rest of their lives if possible, they want
it to work without issues. That is why it is so
important to create stable. As an administartor I can
wait out the new and exciting until it becomes the
tried and true.

I feel that if any distribution has a good shot at
taking the corporate desktop, it is Mandrake. There
are just too many nice touches in this distribution
that makes Linux easy. I had my 21 year old cousin
here this weekend and taught her enough about 8.2 for
her to feel comfortable and utilize for her needs
(mostly gaim and galeon), but show her some
optimizations that make her use easier. She picked it
up very quickly and was so happy. However, while using
it she quickly ran across some of the more obvious
annoyances and bugs.... such as the mouse not
releasing control to the keyboard while trying to cut
and paste such that the paste went into the wrong
section a few times. As small an annoyance as it seems
compared to the massive bug splatting that has been
going on these last few weeks, those little bugs are
often the difference between people moving to Mandrake
or not. The sad part is, if time was budgeted so that
after all of the major bugs have been reconciled, that
attention could be made to these smaller ones and
cleaned them all up.... then you might be surprised at
the momentum that could build arround this
distribution. Corporations are desperately looking for
a well thought out stable desktop os in Linux. This
would save some of them thousands, maybe even hundreds
of thousands of dollars, and all it would take is for
one major support contract to resolve most of your
money worries.

=====
SI Reasoning
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

A requirement of creativity is that it contributes to change.  Creativity keeps
the creator alive.

-FRANK HERBERT, unpublished notes

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