Hi Buchan, Do you really think it is good to have anything (un)markable on installation package list that in fact cannot be unmarked (because it seems to be now specifically tied to all graphical environment)? What is doing "bootsplash" on this package list if it is now intended to be unmarkable? Keep it off the list and there will be no questions like mine.
> > You can always 'rpm -e --nodeps bootsplash' if you want. Yes, thank you for advice (all of them). To be resistant to unwanted, imposed changes is certainly good incentive to learn more about Linux beyond initial users GUI experience :) > How about the desktop backgrounds? Wrong example. Bootsplash is in no way _necessary_ part of boot process. There is IMHO no any clear aim to make it mandatory, except of course writing Mandrake 9.2 on it (but it is written also during text boot). I have nothing against bootsplash if somebody likes it. But I have objection to have bootsplash forcefully imposed on all possible Mandrake users including me. Even to get rid of it I now need to install it in the first place (this "improvement" is true only starting with 9.2). Small step in the same direction as so painfully known program called "IE". Mind you I left Windows world partly because of such mandatory "features" imposed against my own will. And don't tell me that this long dependancy chain you presented cannot be corrected ;-) > binary, maybe initscripts should depend on bootsplash instead? Then we can > have it on servers too ;-). Actually you might be surprised how many Linux servers (including Mandrakes) have full-scale graphical environment installed and in use nowadays. Memory is cheap and CPU's are affordable. Admin's time and good perception of overall situation is much more expensive. Harry On Thursday 13 November 2003 18:17, [bgmilne] wrote: > http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6273 > > ------- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-11-13 17:17 > ------- > > >> Mandatory installation(!) of any non-vital part of Mandrake GPL-ed > >> download distribution > > You can always 'rpm -e --nodeps bootsplash' if you want. > > >> is something definitely worth to be discussed as well. > > Bugzilla is the wrong place, try cooker. > > >> I do not consider such > >> a bit Orwellian thing to be "feature". > > How about the desktop backgrounds? Maybe you should request to have them > removed too, and we can have a blank screen instead. We could remove the X > patch too, so that instead of a blue background when starting X, we could > have the more conventional black/white diagonal hatching and hurt our eyes > looking at it until we log in. > > >> What additional _mandatory_ parts there > >> are for Mandrake 9.2? Any list of them? > > Sure, just diff the output from 'urpmq -d basessytem|sort' and 'urpmq -d > mandrake_desk|sort' > > You may find things like 'menu' and 'mdk-menu-messages' forced upon you. > > Actually, since the initscripts package actually calls the /sbin/splash > binary, maybe initscripts should depend on bootsplash instead? Then we can > have it on servers too ;-).
