On Sat, Jun 07, 2003 at 01:20:00PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 08:55:18PM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote:


yes and you get mail for mister rpcuser actually delivered :(

Which can easily be prevented, especially when using courier+ldap.

I was only meaning that /etc/passwd != list of mailboxes, sorry if i sounded harsh.

By taking advantage of an LDAP environment, and using PAM, if I
create an LDAP account, virtually everything else can be done
automagically. /home directory can be created, samba shares can be
created & assigned (although I haven't gotten that far yet).

you can script user/mailbox creation at the same time you script addictional activities dealing with user creation/renaming/removal.

Why should the admin *need* to script things to make it a viable solution? Sure, being able to script things is nice, but the fact that you need to script things is what currently prevents many people from implementing Linux instead of Windows!

only because noone has already scripted for him something that is functional?, I am positive m$ exchange does not auto create a mailbox for every user on windows system, but probably the mailbox creation wizard is able to create a system user, not sure tough.

auto mailbox creation may only solve creation, but does not deal with
removal or renaming.

IMHO this should be in a user administration frontend, not in an imap
daemon.

Well, then where is the administration tool. And I don't mean another web-based interface. Why do we need 17 web interfaces to get the same functionality as one UI framework in Windows?

cos' we don't even agree on the need of a single configuration interface, let alone working on this.

IMHO, if it's not accessible in Mandrake Control Center (or whatever will
be the server configuration equivalent of it), we need to ensure that a
newbie admin would easily find what needs to be done.
A newbie admin should leave cyrus alone[*]. It is not even in main. And I
am not sure autocreation of mailboxes on post is a help to newbie
admins. see my point above for mr. rpcuser, and if mr. newbie admin has
a hope of finding and removing mr. rpcuser mailbox in /var/mail, it
doesn't have a chance of ever realizing what is eating disk-space on a
cyrus installation.

[*] at least until someone writes an admin tool for it.

Windows didn't get their market share by making things difficult for the
user, and making something easy to use doesn't make it less stable or
insecure (as long as it's done the right way).
Agreed. But windows chose the less-stable way :)

Maybe we need to start working pro-actively on what the config tools for
each service should be capable of doing, so we can be sure libconf will
address it ...
Agreed.

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