> But, we might be getting to the point where we actually need a cooker
> extranet. For example, I would like to be able to remove build output on
>  an automated build host to get a package rebuilt, but we wouldn't want
> anyone to be able to remove build output ...

Well, SPARC's (and at some point Alpha and Opteron 240 SMP) at CSC are on 
private network behind 9.1 i586 box. I can't see anything that should stop 
us from creating the extranet and have the builds automated and 
coordinated. Some centralised user authentication might be a good idea at 
some point if we have more developers.

The only drawback would be probably the fact, that single development 
machines without dedicated front-end might need some more work to 
configure everything, but I think that it'll be worth it.

Stefan? Olivier? Gwenole? What do you think?

At the moment, to my knowledge we have the following machines _dedicated_ 
to non-intel cooker development (please, developers, fill in all blanks):

Alpha
 - 2 x XP1000 - CSC still 7.1b - need help with this
 - 1 x ?????? - Stefan Van Der Eijk
 - others?

SPARC

 - 1 x SparcStation 10 SMP - Olivier Thauvin
 - 1 x SparcClassic - CSC (unused - 32 bit system)
 - 2 x Ultra 10 - CSC
 - 1 x Ultra 5 - CSC
 - others?
 
PPC

 - 1 x ?????? - Olivier Thauvin
 - others?

x86_64

 - 1 x Dual Opteron 240 - CSC (ETA 15 days)
 - others?

I think, that only computers solely dedicated (i.e. not used in any other 
way) may be listed here and eventually included in the extranet.

Because CSC uses Mandrake on all workstations and servers, and we're very 
happy with it (kudos to both cooker and core development teams!) our 
position is to support development of the distribution by providing 
hardware and network resources in return. Naturally we're aware that 
hosting the machines is serious commitment (especially sustaining the 
support over time) and we're ready to fulfil it.

Maybe if we manage to pull this off before 9.2 and have all the packages 
rebuilt, MandrakeSoft will be interested in releasing 9.2 for i586, 
x86_64, Alpha, Sparc64 and PPC? Wouldn't it be the first commercial 
distribution (in couple of years) that allows to run the same system 
across 5 architectures?

Comments/ideas anyone?
-- 
Jaroslaw Zachwieja
Centre for Scientific Computing
University of Warwick


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