Gwenole Beauchesne wrote:

On Wed, 12 Mar 2003, utuhiro wrote:


Gwenole Beauchesne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Others please also test it carefully and check there is no regression
(even measurable performance regression)

see http://www.geocities.jp/knee2525/images/OOo-help-ja06.html I added three japanese fonts and they work fine, but OOo's menu messages are not antialias :-( see also old http://www.geocities.jp/knee2525/images/OOo-help-ja05.html


So the new freetype library works as expected. ;-) i.e. it now honours OOo request to first try embedded bitmaps. And, Kochi Gothic appears to have embedded bitmaps.

yep, both kochi and wadanabe have embedded bitmaps for generally 12 to 17 (and sometimes 20) pixel size.


As Giuseppe told me, it is sometimes better to use embedded bitmaps first as they are usually hand-designed, thus visually better, in theory.

That's the main reason. The second reason was that in the past TTF vector font rasterizers were expensive to use from computation point of view (or indeed CPU were slower), so the bitmap font were preferred for fixed size, especially because antialias (even more expensive from computation point of view) was not efficient like now at small size (and fonts not well hinted or not hinted). And finally hand-tuned embedded bitmaps could give better results over computed ones when font antialias is turned off. Sometimes (and this is not the case) it could also happen that TTF fonts contains embedded bitmaps, but they were not hand tuned, so the embedded bitmap are worst than the same bitmap obtained by the vector font resterizer.


So, should we make OOo fallback to embedded bitmaps then, instead of trying to use them at start? Or do you know another free font suitable for UI with no embedded bitmaps?

I think the current behaviour is the right one. If exists embedded bitmap then it's used. Maybe after 9.1 this behaviour could be changed to let user decide priority of embedded bitmaps in /etc/openoffice/openoffice.conf.

anyway for utuhiro, he can try these with embedded bitmaps stripped
(replacing the one in /usr/share/fonts/japanese/ttf):

http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~ghibo/ja

Just to know, but when antialiased the second menu is readable? To me it appears
quite blurred to be readable.

Bye.
Giuseppe.






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