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There are many other archives out there as well. + </p> + + <p class="alert alert-success"> + If you want to <b>discuss patches or contribute to Struts</b> you should + subscribe to the <a href="dev/dev-mail.html">developers list</a>. + </p> + </div> + + <div class="section"><h3>Guidelines<a name="Guidelines"></a></h3> <p> Mailing lists provide a simple and effective communication - mechanism. - With potentially thousands of subscribers, there is a - common set of - etiquette guidelines that you should observe. Please keep + mechanism. With potentially thousands of subscribers, there is a + common set of etiquette guidelines that you should observe. Please keep on reading. </p> - <p> + <p class="alert alert-box alert-error"> <b> Join the lists that are appropriate for your discussion. </b> <br /> Please make sure that you are joining the list that is - appropriate for the - topic or product that you would like to discuss. For - example, - please do not join the Struts mailing list and ask - questions about Tomcat. - Instead, you should join the Tomcat User list and ask your - questions - there. - </p> - <p> - <b> - <a name="respect">Respect the mailing list type</a> - </b> + appropriate for the topic or product that you would like to discuss. For + example, please do not join the Struts mailing list and ask + questions about Tomcat. Instead, you should join the Tomcat User list and ask your + questions there. </p> - <ul> - <li> - The "User" list is where you can send questions and - comments about - configuration, setup, usage and other "user" types of - questions. - </li> - <li> - The "Developer" (or "Dev") list is where you can send - questions and - comments about the actual software source code and - general - "development" types of questions. - Questions about the "future" of Struts are - best addressed to the dev list. - </li> - </ul> - - <p>Some questions may seem appropriate for posting on both the - "user" and - the "developer" lists. - In this case, pick one and only one. - Do not cross post, unless a Committer asks that the - thread be moved to the other list. - </p> - - <p>Asking a configuration question on the developers list is - discouraged because the time of our developers is as - precious as yours. - By contacting the developers directly instead of the user - base you are abusing resources. - In fact, it is unlikely that you will get a quicker answer, - if any answer at all - </p> + </div><div class="section"><h3><a name="respect">Respect the mailing list type</a><a name="Respect_the_mailing_list_type"></a></h3> <p> - Conversely, a question about the future of Struts - or the operation of the Struts project is best posted to the - dev list. + The "User" list is where you can send questions and comments about + configuration, setup, usage and other "user" types of questions. The focus of the user list should be one "how" to do something with the framework we have today. The focus of the dev list is how we want to do something with a future version of the framework. </p> + <p> - If you would like to discuss a topic outside the usual scope of our mailing lists, - please create a - <a class="externalLink" href="http://quicktopic.com/"> - <b>QuickTopic</b> - </a> - and invite others to join the conversation. + The "Developer" (or "Dev") list is where you can send questions and + comments about the actual software source code and general + "development" types of questions. Questions about the "future" of Struts are + best addressed to the dev list. </p> <p> - <b> - <a name="post">Do not cross post messages.</a> - </b> - <br /> + Some questions may seem appropriate for posting on both the + "user" and the "developer" lists. In this case, pick one and only one. + Do not cross post, unless a Committer asks that the + thread be moved to the other list. + </p> + + </div><div class="section"><h3><a name="post">Do not cross post messages.</a><a name="Do_not_cross_post_messages."></a></h3> + <p> In other words, pick a mailing list and send your messages - to that mailing - list only. Do not send your messages to multiple mailing - lists. The reason is - that people may be subscribed to one list and not to the - other. Therefore, - some people will only see part of the conversation. + to that mailing list only. Do not send your messages to multiple mailing + lists. The reason is that people may be subscribed to one list and not to the + other. Therefore, some people will only see part of the conversation. </p> + </div><div class="section"><h3><a name="reply-to">Watch where you are sending email.</a><a name="Watch_where_you_are_sending_email."></a></h3> <p> - <b> - <a name="reply-to">Watch where you are sending email.</a> - </b> The majority of our mailing lists have set the Reply-To to - go back to the - list. That means that when you Reply to a message, it will - go to the list - and not to the original author directly. The reason is - because it helps - facilitate discussion on the list for everyone to benefit - from. Be careful - of this as sometimes you may intend to reply to a message - directly to someone - instead of the entire list. - The appropriate contents of the Reply-To header is an - age-old debate that - should not be brought up on the mailing lists. You can - examine opposing points of view - <a class="externalLink" href="http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html"> - condemning</a> - our convention and - <a class="externalLink" href="http://marc.merlins.org/netrants/reply-to-useful.html"> - condoning</a> - it. Bringing this up for debate on a mailing list will add - nothing - new and is considered off-topic. + go back to the list. That means that when you Reply to a message, it will + go to the list and not to the original author directly. The reason is + because it helps facilitate discussion on the list for everyone to benefit + from. Be careful of this as sometimes you may intend to reply to a message + directly to someone instead of the entire list. </p> + </div><div class="section"><h3><a name="plain">Do not send HTML emails to the list.</a><a name="Do_not_send_HTMLemails_to_the_list."></a></h3> <p> - <b> - <a name="plain">Do your best to ensure that you are not sending HTML - or "Stylelized" email to the list.</a> - </b> - <br /> If you are using Outlook or Outlook Express or Eudora, - chances are that - you are sending HTML email by default. There is usually a - setting that - will allow you to send "Plain Text" email. If you are - using Microsoft - products to send email, there are several bugs in the - software that - prevent you from turning off the sending of HTML email. + chances are that you are sending HTML email by default. There is usually a + setting that will allow you to send "Plain Text" email. </p> + </div><div class="section"><h3><a name="short">Keep your email short and to the point.</a><a name="Keep_your_email_short_and_to_the_point."></a></h3> <p> - <b> - <a name="short">Keep your email short and to the point.</a> - </b> - <br /> If your email is more than about a page of text, chances - are that it - won't get read by very many people. It is much better to - try to pack a - lot of informative information (see above about asking - smart questions) - into as small of an email as possible. If you are replying - to a previous - email, it is a good idea to only quote the parts that you - are replying - to and to remove the unnecessary bits. This makes it - easier for people - to follow a thread as well as making the email archives - easier to search - and read. + are that it won't get read by very many people. It is much better to + try to pack a lot of informative information (see above about asking + smart questions) into as small of an email as possible. If you are replying + to a previous email, it is a good idea to only quote the parts that you + are replying to and to remove the unnecessary bits. This makes it + easier for people to follow a thread as well as making the email archives + easier to search and read. </p> - <p> - <b> - <a name="trolls">Don't feed the trolls.</a> - </b> - </p> + + </div><div class="section"><h3><a name="trolls">Don't feed the trolls.</a><a name="Dont_feed_the_trolls."></a></h3> + <blockquote> <p> "In Internet terminology, a troll is a person who posts rude or offensive messages on the @@ -517,174 +367,31 @@ limitations under the License. --><!-- / but troll spam is a hard for software to spot. The best defense is to withhold from the troll what he or she wants most: A response. </p> + + </div><div class="section"><h3><a name="smart">Ask smart questions.</a><a name="Ask_smart_questions."></a></h3> <p> - <b> - <a name="smart">Ask smart questions.</a> - </b> - <br /> Every volunteer project obtains its strength from the - people involved - in it. You are welcome to join any of our mailing lists. - You can - choose to lurk, or actively participate; it's up to you. - The level of - community responsiveness to specific questions is - generally directly - proportional to the amount of effort you spend formulating - your - question. Eric Raymond and Rick Moen have even written an + people involved in it. You are welcome to join any of our mailing lists. + You can choose to lurk, or actively participate; it's up to you. + The level of community responsiveness to specific questions is + generally directly proportional to the amount of effort you spend formulating + your question. 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