essobedo commented on code in PR #943:
URL: https://github.com/apache/camel-website/pull/943#discussion_r1049657156


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+---
+title: "Roadmap to Camel v4"
+date: 2022-12-16
+draft: false
+authors: [davsclaus]
+categories: ["Roadmap"]
+preview: "Roadmap to Apache Camel v4 and impact on Camel v3"
+---
+
+Apache Camel v4 is on the way for 1st half in 2023.
+
+The need for Camel v4 is mainly driven by Java open source projects migrating 
from `javax` to `jakarta` APIs
+and to keep up with popular runtimes such as Spring Boot and Quarkus.
+
+## Primary Goals 
+1. Migrate from `javax` -> `jakarta` (JEE 10)
+2. Java 17 as minimum
+3. Spring Framework 6
+4. Spring Boot 3
+5. Quarkus 3
+
+## Release Goals
+6. Release only what is ready (JEE10 / Java17)
+   This means that Camel components that are not ready (yet) will be dropped 
in a release until they are ready.
+7. Release Camel Core + Camel Spring Boot together
+8. Move Camel Karaf to Apache Karaf as karaf-camel sub-project 
+
+## Major Goals
+9. Support Java 17 features such as records, multiline strings, and what else
+10. EIP model without JAXB dependency (if possible)
+11. Endpoint URI parsing (do not use `java.net.URI`)
+12. Deprecate `message.getIn()` use `getMessage()` instead
+13. Deprecate/Remove camel-cdi
+14. Deprecate/Remove MDC logging (complex and buggy and does not fit modern 
app development)
+
+## Minor Goals
+15. Remove MEP `InOptionalOut` (not in use)
+16. Remove JUnit 4 support
+
+## Dropping Java 11 support 
+
+Some users have asked whether Camel v4 can support Java 11. Because Spring 
Framework 6 is
+requiring Java 17, then this is _tricky_ as a number of Camel components rely 
on Spring.
+
+Java 21 LTS is to be released in September 2023, meaning that Camel v4
+should be forward-facing and prepare to support Java 21 instead of 11. 
+
+Users that must use Java 11, can use Camel v3 and then later
+upgrade to Camel v4 when they are ready to upgrade Java as well.
+
+## Timeline
+
+The times are _estimates_ and the number of versions may vary according to the 
needs and the state of progress of the process. In other words, Camel v4 may be 
released earlier than expected.
+
+- Feb 2023: Camel 4.0 milestone 1
+- Mar 2023: Camel 4.0 milestone 2
+- Apr 2023: Camel 4.0 RC1
+- May 2023: Camel 4.0 LTS (LTS until 4.1 release)
+- Aug 2023: Camel 4.1 LTS (LTS until Jun 2024)
+- Oct 2023: Camel 4.2
+- Dec 2023: Camel 4.3 LTS
+
+For Camel 3, only LTS versions are released twice a year.
+This means the Camel v3 schedule is as follows:
+
+- Dec 2022: Camel 3.20 LTS
+- Jun 2023: Camel 3.21 LTS
+- Dec 2023: Camel 3.22 LTS (last planned Camel v3 release, supported until Dec 
2024)

Review Comment:
   If the support of Camel 3.22 can be extended to 2 years, it would mean an 
end of support in Jan 2025 which sounds good enough knowing that the end of 
life of Java 11 itself is September 2026.



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