A couple of comments on radar: a mast-mounted radar will “see” vessels further 
away, including over the horizon compared to deck-level.  But as Chuck 
mentioned, it will not see things in the water closer to the boat, as there’s 
about a 12.5° vertical beam width above/below horizontal on most marine radars; 
so as a target gets within several dozen yards of the radar, it’ll be too low 
to be picked up.  Using a stern pole can help with this close-in imaging of 
targets; but you lose the distant ability of having the dome up high.

There is also a danger with stern pole mounting of having the radar beam hit 
deck crew; stand too close to a high-power radar beam, and you can develop some 
nasty medical issues like vision loss.  This is an issue I have with power 
boaters who mount the dome right on their hard top (usually a large open 
array…), then come into the dock on a clear sunny day with the radar merrily 
turning away.  The beam is pretty much at head-height for anyone standing on 
the dock, and it’s pretty easy to get a nice face full of microwave radiation 
at close range.

Chuck — as far as NME0183 vs NMEA2000 on the Raymarine a, c, e, and eS Series 
MFDs, ALL of them support NMEA2000.  See page 51 of the a-c-e Installation 
Manual.  The smallest versions of the a and c Series DO NOT have NMEA0183 
connections on them at all.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

> On Dec 29, 2015, at 1:51 PM, Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Mike,
> My experience with mast mounted radar is not favorable.  Close in targets 
> tend to drop off (such as small boats and channel markers in the fog) as the 
> radar tends to see above those objects.  The mast mount is also hell on an 
> overlapping jib..
> Chuck Gilchrest
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Dec 29, 2015, at 2:23 PM, Headgorilla via CnC-List <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks for discussing the Raymarine equipment, I am going into the NY boat 
>> show next week to see my electronics people and probably but a package due 
>> to all the rebates and discounts they offer, so I appreciate your experience 
>> on this subject....I am listening.
>>  
>> One Question: where the best spot to mount the Radar antenna, on the Mast? 
>> or off a pole on the stern?
>>  
>> Mike Dolan
>> 1979 34' C&C "Skywalker"
>> Southold, NY
>>  
>>  
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>>
>> To: cnc-list <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>> Cc: Chuck Gilchrest <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>>
>> Sent: Tue, Dec 29, 2015 2:15 pm
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - Raymarine Combo on sale again
>> 
>> I believe the C series units also rely on NMEA 0183 networking language 
>> where A, E series and newer will be NMEA 2000 and can network more readily 
>> with peripherals such as wind, speed, depth, and autopilot.  I’d check to 
>> see what’s on your boat with regards to the peripherals and that may make a 
>> difference in your decision making process.  Don’t try to mix and match 
>> instrument brands or operating language otherwise you will spend all your 
>> sailing time trying to make the instruments talk to each other and at best, 
>> functionality will be limited.
>> Chuck Gilchrest
>> S/V Half Magic
>> 1975 25 Mk 1
>>  
>> S/V Orion
>> 1983 35 Landfall
>> Padanaram, MA
>>   <>
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]?>] On Behalf Of Frederick G Street via 
>> CnC-List
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 1:03 PM
>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> Cc: Frederick G Street <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Stus List - Raymarine Combo on sale again
>>  
>> Sure!  The eS Series is the newest MFD from Raymarine, and is basically an 
>> updated, more powerful version of the e Series, with both touchscreen and 
>> hard controls.  I would definitely recommend the eS over the e if you’re 
>> looking to buy today, particularly at the 7” size where there’s not much 
>> difference at all in price.
>>  
>> The Raymarine c Series has NO touchscreen capability whatsoever; just 
>> buttons.  I’d put it at the bottom of the heap in terms of power and 
>> functionality.
>>  
>> How’s that?   :^)
>>  
>> Happy New Year, all!
>>  
>> — Fred
>> 
>> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
>> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
>>  
>> On Dec 29, 2015, at 11:22 AM, Tim Goodyear <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>  
>> Fred, thank you for that summary - I've been trying to work out what the 
>> differences between the Raymarine models amount to in the real world.  Would 
>> you care to expand your descriptions to include the "c" and "es" ranges too?
>>  
>> Thanks!
>>  
>> Tim
>>  
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