I'm not sure exactly what I've done wrong, but about 8 months now I've
tried, on and off again, to start using Clojure. However, every time,
I'm kicked in the face by the same issue. I can't get a decent
environment setup. All I really want is a basic Clojure install that
allows me to talk to OpenGL.

Finally I found out that the "best" was was to use lein. So I
installed lein, and after several hours finally got it to download and
install Clojure. I added penumbra to my project.clj, and told lein to
get the deps. It downloaded dozens of packages then said it completed.
Oh! but penumbra also requires a Java OpenGL interop package that
isn't on clojars!

Anyway, as a starting point I should say that I've used Python, Ruby,
C++ (on Linux, Mac and Windows), C#, even Erlang, and I have never had
such a terrible time just getting a decent ide. Now admittedly I don't
have much Java experience, so perhaps that's my issue. Since I have
allot of .NET experience I'm going to try with Clojure-CLR next.
Perhaps Clojure-CLR and OpenTK will get me what I need.

But yeah, we really need a clone of Python's easy_install or
something. I don't really want to mess with system variables, copying
jars by hand. All I want to do is code Clojure with OpenGL.

</rant>

Timothy

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that–lacking zero–they had no way to indicate successful termination
of their C programs.”
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