On Jun 12, 11:58 am, CuppoJava <[email protected]> wrote:
> I would agree with Chouser. My first look at Lisp really turned me
> away from FP, until I gave Clojure a chance.

Same here, just about. Clojure has two very big advantages:

1. Access to the huge, very useful Java standard library. Graphics,
   threads, networking, the works. In this regard, Common Lisp is
   to C as Clojure is to Java. You also get the portability,
   stability, and performance benefits of being JVM-hosted. For
   example, when Java 7 comes out your Clojure apps magically get
   the benefits of the G1 collector. Common Lisp users will have to
   wait for their compiler's vendor to improve their collector, if
   they ever do, based on new research in the field. You might
   argue that using Clojure just replaces one vendor (Allegro, say)
   with another (Sun). But the JVM has a much larger market share
   than any CL environment, so it should see a faster pace of
   research and development, benefiting everything hosted on it.
2. Thanks to Enclojure, you can develop in Clojure using a fully
   modern development environment. Very handy for those that
   can't abide emacs. :)

That second point may be quite important -- I wonder how many people
aren't really turned off by Lisp itself, but by the company it keeps.
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