I've only been skimming this but "analysis paralysis" comes to mind :-). What is the harm in establishing a presence in matrix (bagsy the "neo" handle) and letting people know? As has been said, people will vote with their feet so if in a months time matrix is a Clojure ghost town then lesson learned.
Or, if I have missed some pertinent fact then by all means, sigh, tut and mutter "sheesh, these drive by commenters are annoying" :-). On Wednesday, 24 May 2017, Herwig Hochleitner <[email protected]> wrote: > 2017-05-23 23:04 GMT+02:00 Colin Fleming <[email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>>: > >> On 24 May 2017 at 00:13, Herwig Hochleitner <[email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: >> >>> I doubt the whole community would want to move anywhere from Slack. >>> >> >> Perhaps this will have to wait until Slack inevitably throws us off, then. >> >> > What I'm saying is, that the whole community isn't in a single place > anyway. Slack happens to be most popular, right now, but we are spread > across IRC, gitter / github, slack, mailing lists, discord, stack overflow, > reddit and probably many more. > > IMO trying to move everybody to one thing is an exercise in futility, but > consuming / producing to / from all those places through a generic protocol > is a realistic hope, as matrix is proving right now. > > It's a far cry from searching for "cursive" from anywhere in Clojurians, >> though. Searching for channels based on some vague criteria seemed >> difficult, and searching for Clojure related content across channels is >> also a pretty bad experience. >> > > Granted, matrix' search facilities are far from optimal, as of now. But > unlike the alternatives, just about everybody could be (and somebody > probably is) improving on that. > > There has been some talk of making a Clojure-related room directory in an >> external webpage or something but it's still a kludge. I'm not sure to what >> extent this would be fixed if we ran our own room server, but then someone >> has to maintain that. >> > > Same. This is currently being worked on: https://github.com/vector- > im/riot-web/issues/2454 > > I'd just like to mention, that in the year or so, that I've been using > matrix, the stream of improvements has been pretty steady. So while it > might not currently do everything we need, it's the best hope for bridging > the community across all the various services that (will continue to) exist. > > 2017-05-23 23:31 GMT+02:00 Alan Moore <[email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>>: > >> I watched the matrix video linked above and it seems there is a Slack >> bridge that would allow Slack fans to stay put and others to choose their >> own client or even go back to IRC. What am I missing? >> > > The slack bridge is working fine, but slack has a nagging limitation of > one bridged room per organization or some "monetization incentive" like > that. > > If slack allowed a full bridge, "slackpocalypse" and its message limit > would already be a solved problem. Such are the ways of proprietary > services ... > > I too have no skin in this game... I still prefer this mailing list, as is >> self evident. I suppose I could build a matrix bridge for Google Groups. >> > > related: https://github.com/turt2live/matrix-email-bot > > On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Andy Fingerhut <[email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: >> >>> I have no skin in this game, but wasn't the move to Slack pretty much a >>> "vote with your feet" combined with word of mouth advertising? It seems to >>> me the same could happen to add another on-line chat tool/system, without >>> anyone taking a poll/voting on this or any other medium. We'll know when >>> it has happened by the rumor mill on Slack, IRC, and/or this email group. >>> >> > Agreed, hence I advertise matrix because I hope more people will see it as > a way, better than just a different silo. > If "feet" will still choose a silo, there'll be a matrix bridge, as good > as silo allows. 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