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================ Comment at: clang/lib/Sema/SemaModule.cpp:282 + StringRef FirstComponentName = Path[0].first->getName(); + if (!getSourceManager().isInSystemHeader(Path[0].second) && + (FirstComponentName == "std" || ---------------- aaron.ballman wrote: > philnik wrote: > > aaron.ballman wrote: > > > philnik wrote: > > > > aaron.ballman wrote: > > > > > philnik wrote: > > > > > > aaron.ballman wrote: > > > > > > > philnik wrote: > > > > > > > > aaron.ballman wrote: > > > > > > > > > philnik wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ChuanqiXu wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > aaron.ballman wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > aaron.ballman wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > ChuanqiXu wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > erichkeane wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ChuanqiXu wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > aaron.ballman wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ChuanqiXu wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cor3ntin wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ChuanqiXu wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > std modules should be irreverent with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system headers; The intuition of the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wording should be that the users can't > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > declare modules like `std` or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > `std.compat` to avoid possible > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > conflicting. The approach I imaged may > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be add a new compilation flags (call it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > `-fstd-modules`) now. And if the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > compiler found a `std` module > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > declaration without `-fstd-modules`, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > emit an error. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For now, I think we can skip the check > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for `-fstd-modules` and add it back > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when we starts to support std modules > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > actually. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The idea is that standard modules are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > built from system directories... it seems > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a better heuristic than adding a flag for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the purpose of 1 diagnostics ( maybe some > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other system library could in theory > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > export std with no warning, but I'm not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > super worried about that being a concern > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in practice) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The idea is that standard modules are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > built from system directories... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is not true. For example, if someday > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > libc++ supports std modules, then we need > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to build the std modules in our working > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > directory, which is not system directories. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And **ideally**, we would distribute and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > install module file in the system > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > directories. But it is irreverent with the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > path of the source file. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > then we need to build the std modules in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > our working directory, which is not system > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > directories. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > `-isystem`, pragmas, and linemarkers are all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ways around that -- I don't think we need a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > feature flag for this, unless I'm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > misunderstanding something. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Although it may be a little bit nit picker, the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > module unit which declares the std modules > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > won't be header. It is a module unit. So it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > requires we implement std modules by wrapping > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > linemarkers around the std modules declaration, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which looks a little bit overkill. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And another point is that maybe we need to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > introduce another feature flags to implement > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > std modules. Although I tried to implement std > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > modules within the current features, I can't > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > prove we can implement std modules in that way > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the end of the day. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me add some more words. The standards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > require us to implement std modules without > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > deprecating the system headers. This strategy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > leads the direction to "implement the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > components in the original headers and control > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > their visibility in the std module unit". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It may look like: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ``` > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //--- std.cppm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > module; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > #include <algorithm> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > export module std; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ``` > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then how can control the visibility? In my > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > original experiments, I use the style: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ``` > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //--- std.cppm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > module; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > #include <algorithm> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > export module std; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > export namespace std { > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > using std::sort; > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > } > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ``` > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but this doesn't always work. For example, we > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can't `using` a in-class friend definition. And > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there are more reasons, the unreachable > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > declarations in the global module fragment (the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > section from `module;` to `export module > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [module_name]`) can be discarded to reduce the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > size of the module file. And the reachable > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rules are complex. But the simple story is that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it is highly possible the a lot of necessary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > declarations in global module fragment in the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > above snippet would be discarded so that the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > user can't use std modules correctly. I mean, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we **may** need a special feature flag for it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And the method with `system headers` looks not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > good and semantics are not so consistency. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > IMO, any such additional flag (say > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > `-isystem-module`) should ALSO use the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > `isInSystemHeader` infrastructure. I suspect > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nearly every place we use `isInSystemHeader` we > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > also mean to exclude a system-module as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think that any such flag can/should be added > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > later as you figure out how it should be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > specified/work. That said, when you do so, it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > should either also feed `isInSystemHeader`, or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > basically every use of `isInSystemHeader` should > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ALSO changed to use the new flag as well > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The main confusion part to me is that why we > > > > > > > > > > > > > > connect `std modules` with system paths? I know > > > > > > > > > > > > > > implementors can work around the check like the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tests did. But what's the point? I know every > > > > > > > > > > > > > > header of libcxx contains: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ``` > > > > > > > > > > > > > > #ifndef _LIBCPP_HAS_NO_PRAGMA_SYSTEM_HEADER > > > > > > > > > > > > > > # pragma GCC system_header > > > > > > > > > > > > > > #endif > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ``` > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but it is for the compatibility with GCC. And it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > looks not so meaningful to force the implementation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of modules to keep such contraints. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think that any such flag can/should be added > > > > > > > > > > > > > > later as you figure out how it should be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > specified/work. That said, when you do so, it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > should either also feed isInSystemHeader, or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > basically every use of isInSystemHeader should ALSO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > changed to use the new flag as well > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1, that's my thinking as well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > The main confusion part to me is that why we connect > > > > > > > > > > > > > std modules with system paths? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We consider the system paths to be "special" in that > > > > > > > > > > > > they can do things "user" paths cannot do. I think we > > > > > > > > > > > > want to keep that model for modules because of how > > > > > > > > > > > > successful it has been for includes. (e.g., don't > > > > > > > > > > > > suggest fixits in a system module but do suggest them > > > > > > > > > > > > for user modules). > > > > > > > > > > > OK, I got it and it won't be a problem we can't > > > > > > > > > > > workaround. > > > > > > > > > > IIUC this would prevent the library from handling the `std` > > > > > > > > > > module the same as a user module, right? AFAIK the actual > > > > > > > > > > use of `_LIBCPP_HAS_NO_PRAGMA_SYSTEM_HEADER` is to enable > > > > > > > > > > warnings in the headers for development, which would not > > > > > > > > > > work with the modules with this patch, or am I > > > > > > > > > > misunderstanding something? Is there a reason this isn't a > > > > > > > > > > warning that's an error by default? That would allow the > > > > > > > > > > library to disable it and still serve the same purpose. > > > > > > > > > > AFAIK the actual use of _LIBCPP_HAS_NO_PRAGMA_SYSTEM_HEADER > > > > > > > > > > is to enable warnings in the headers for development, which > > > > > > > > > > would not work with the modules with this patch, or am I > > > > > > > > > > misunderstanding something? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why would the library want a diagnostic telling them they're > > > > > > > > > using a reserved identifier as a module name? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there a reason this isn't a warning that's an error by > > > > > > > > > > default? That would allow the library to disable it and > > > > > > > > > > still serve the same purpose. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It also allows users to produce modules with reserved > > > > > > > > > identifiers. It's an error that can't be downgraded > > > > > > > > > specifically because I don't think we want our implementation > > > > > > > > > to give arbitrary users that ability. > > > > > > > > > > AFAIK the actual use of _LIBCPP_HAS_NO_PRAGMA_SYSTEM_HEADER > > > > > > > > > > is to enable warnings in the headers for development, which > > > > > > > > > > would not work with the modules with this patch, or am I > > > > > > > > > > misunderstanding something? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why would the library want a diagnostic telling them they're > > > > > > > > > using a reserved identifier as a module name? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't mean specifically this error, I mean more generally > > > > > > > > that other warnings should be generated from std modules. > > > > > > > > Treating the headers as system headers disables most warnings, > > > > > > > > which is the reason libc++ treat them as normal headers in the > > > > > > > > tests. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there a reason this isn't a warning that's an error by > > > > > > > > > > default? That would allow the library to disable it and > > > > > > > > > > still serve the same purpose. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It also allows users to produce modules with reserved > > > > > > > > > identifiers. It's an error that can't be downgraded > > > > > > > > > specifically because I don't think we want our implementation > > > > > > > > > to give arbitrary users that ability. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think there should be some way to enable normal warnings in > > > > > > > > the special modules, since it makes the life of library > > > > > > > > developers a lot easier. I don't care whether that's through > > > > > > > > disabling a warning or some special sauce to enable warnings > > > > > > > > from the std module, but there should be some way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't mean specifically this error, I mean more generally > > > > > > > > that other warnings should be generated from std modules. > > > > > > > > Treating the headers as system headers disables most warnings, > > > > > > > > which is the reason libc++ treat them as normal headers in the > > > > > > > > tests. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ahhh, thank you, that makes a lot more sense to me. :-D > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think there should be some way to enable normal warnings in > > > > > > > > the special modules, since it makes the life of library > > > > > > > > developers a lot easier. I don't care whether that's through > > > > > > > > disabling a warning or some special sauce to enable warnings > > > > > > > > from the std module, but there should be some way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just like we have `-Wsystem-headers`, I would expect we'd have > > > > > > > something similar for modules (or reuse it, perhaps with a > > > > > > > different name, for both headers and modules). > > > > > > `-Wsystem-headers` doesn't work because that enables warnings in > > > > > > all system headers, but we only want the warnings from the system > > > > > > library that we write, i.e. libc++. Or can you somehow control in > > > > > > which system headers warnings are emitted? > > > > > > -Wsystem-headers doesn't work because that enables warnings in all > > > > > > system headers, but we only want the warnings from the system > > > > > > library that we write, i.e. libc++ > > > > > > > > > > You're correct that it enabled warnings in all system headers if used > > > > > from the command line, but you can use pragmas to control which > > > > > warnings are or are not enabled on a file by file basis. > > > > > > > > > > However, maybe I'm not understanding your concerns properly, so let > > > > > me back up a step. With this patch, trying to create a module with a > > > > > reserved name fails with an error unless the source file with the > > > > > module declaration is in a file considered to be a "system header" > > > > > (whether through -isystem, a pragma, linemarkers, etc). For libc++, I > > > > > was thinking this should not be an issue because libc++ has > > > > > `_LIBCPP_HAS_NO_PRAGMA_SYSTEM_HEADER` to control whether the file is > > > > > considered a system header or not, so when exporting modules you have > > > > > to ensure that macro is not defined. If you want to test the behavior > > > > > as though the user was the one declaring that exported module... > > > > > well, they get an error because they're not allowed to define that > > > > > module, so I'm not certain what value there is in testing that > > > > > specific situation. Am I misunderstanding something? > > > > > > > > > My understanding right now is that libc++ would have to build the > > > > module as a system header. You want this, so users have to try really > > > > hard to produce a module with a reserved identifier, which makes sense. > > > > Because of that, warnings generated inside the module would be > > > > suppressed though. > > > > Essentially, my concern is that we don't get all the warnings we want > > > > when testing anything inside the `std` module. To get warnings from the > > > > `std` module we could use `-Wsystem-headers`. The problem there is that > > > > it would also produce warnings in headers we have no control over, > > > > which means we can't use it. > > > Ah, thank you for clarifying! I think we're considering the libc++ > > > implementation strategy from different angles. One way to do it is as you > > > said -- build the module as a system header. But I was thinking libc++ > > > would do something a bit more novel (and maybe that's a bad idea!): > > > ``` > > > # __LINE__ __FILE__ 1 3 // Enter system header > > > export module std; > > > # __LINE__ __FILE__ 2 3 // Leave system header > > > ``` > > > and leave the rest of the module code "outside" of the faked up system > > > header block of linemarker directives. > > I guess it's `# <line> <file> <mode?> <???>`? That seems to me quite hacky. > > Maybe it would be nicer if we add an attribute like > > `[[clang::system_module]]` that would allow reserved identifiers, and maybe > > even ensure that it's actually one. Though that might be overkill, and > > would again allow people to more easily create modules with reserved > > identifiers. It would make the code a lot nicer to read though. > > I guess it's # <line> <file> <mode?> <???>? That seems to me quite hacky. > > Yeah, this is a pretty arcane feature but it's been around for ages. GCC > documents this feature (Clang does not and we absolutely should): > https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-12.2.0/cpp/Preprocessor-Output.html#Preprocessor-Output > > > It would make the code a lot nicer to read though. > > It would, but we have to balance protecting this reserved space from the > compiler while we can against readability of (already generally unreadable, > IMHO) STL headers. But then again, linemarkers allow the user to do this > themselves in the same manner as an attribute would. Between the two, I think > linemarkers are far less likely to be used by users just trying to get their > code to compile without worrying about the details of what they're doing. > > I guess it's # <line> <file> <mode?> <???>? That seems to me quite hacky. > > Yeah, this is a pretty arcane feature but it's been around for ages. GCC > documents this feature (Clang does not and we absolutely should): > https://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-12.2.0/cpp/Preprocessor-Output.html#Preprocessor-Output Thanks for the link! > > It would make the code a lot nicer to read though. > > It would, but we have to balance protecting this reserved space from the > compiler while we can against readability of (already generally unreadable, > IMHO) STL headers. But then again, linemarkers allow the user to do this > themselves in the same manner as an attribute would. Between the two, I think > linemarkers are far less likely to be used by users just trying to get their > code to compile without worrying about the details of what they're doing. Yeah, I also thought that it might be a bit too easy to add an attribute. It would also be possible to just have an internal header like ```lang=c++, name=__export_module_std #pragma GCC system_header export module std; ``` right? That wouldn't be great, but it would be a lot easier to understand than linemarkers. As a side note: Anything that we only have to make available through modules could be a lot more readable, since the preprocessor wouldn't be a problem anymore. That won't happen soon, but I can dream. Anyways, since we can enable warnings inside modules I don't have any concerns here anymore. Thanks for being so patient with me! CHANGES SINCE LAST ACTION https://reviews.llvm.org/D136953/new/ https://reviews.llvm.org/D136953 _______________________________________________ cfe-commits mailing list cfe-commits@lists.llvm.org https://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cfe-commits