aaron.ballman added a comment. Poking @alexfh for more opinions about check similarity.
================ Comment at: clang-tools-extra/clang-tidy/misc/MiscTidyModule.cpp:46 + CheckFactories.registerCheck<RedundantConditionCheck>( + "misc-redundant-condition"); CheckFactories.registerCheck<RedundantExpressionCheck>( ---------------- baloghadamsoftware wrote: > aaron.ballman wrote: > > baloghadamsoftware wrote: > > > aaron.ballman wrote: > > > > baloghadamsoftware wrote: > > > > > aaron.ballman wrote: > > > > > > I think this check should probably live in the `bugprone` module, > > > > > > WDYT? > > > > > Based on my experience, `bugpronbe` is for checks whose findings are > > > > > bugs that lead to undefined illegal memory access, behavior etc. This > > > > > one is somewhere between that and readability. For example, > > > > > `redundant-expression` is also in `misc`. But if you wish, I can move > > > > > this checker into `bugprone`. > > > > The `bugprone` module has less to do with memory access or undefined > > > > behavior specifically and more to do with checks that should expose > > > > bugs in your code but don't belong to other categories. We try to keep > > > > checks out of `misc` as much as possible these days and this code > > > > pattern is attempting to find cases where the user potentially has a > > > > bug, so I think `bugprone` is the correct home for it. > > > > > > > > However, `bugprone` has a similar check and I sort of wonder whether we > > > > should be extending that check rather than adding a separate one. See > > > > `bugprone-branch-clone` which catches the highly related situation > > > > where you have a chain of conditionals and one of the conditions is > > > > repeated. e.g., > > > > ``` > > > > if (foo) { > > > > if (foo) { // Caught by misc-redundant-condition > > > > } > > > > } else if (foo) { // Caught by bugprone-branch-clone > > > > } > > > > ``` > > > > Even if we don't combine the checks, we should ensure their behaviors > > > > work well together (catch the same scenarios, don't repeat diagnostics, > > > > etc). > > > OK, I will put this into `bugprone`. The two checks may look similar, but > > > this one is more complex because it does not check for the same condition > > > in multiple branches of the same branch statement but checks whether the > > > condition expression could be mutated between the two branch statements. > > > Therefore the the whole logic is totally different, I see no point in > > > merging the two. Should I create a test case then, where both are enabled? > > > Therefore the the whole logic is totally different, I see no point in > > > merging the two. > > > > I'm approaching the question from the perspective of the user, not a check > > author. These two checks do the same thing (find redundant conditions in > > flow control which look like they could be a logical mistake), so why > > should they be two separate checks? "Because the code looks different" > > isn't super compelling from that perspective, so I'm trying to figure out > > what the underlying principles are for the checks. If they're the same > > principle, they should be the same check. If they're fundamentally > > different principles, we should be able to explain when to use each check > > as part of their documentation without it sounding contrived. (Note, I'm > > not saying the checks have to be combined, but I am pushing back on adding > > an entirely new check that seems to be redundant from a user perspective.) > > > > As a litmus test: can you think of a situation where you'd want only one of > > these two checks enabled? I can't think of a case where I'd care about > > redundancy in nested conditionals but not in chained conditionals (or vice > > versa) unless one of the checks had a really high false positive rate > > (which isn't much of a reason to split the checks anyway). > > > > > Should I create a test case then, where both are enabled? > > > > If we wind up keeping the checks separate, then probably yes (also, the > > documentation for the checks should be updated to explain how they're > > different and why that's useful). > There are many checks that users almost always keep enabled together, but > they are still separate checks. Now I looked into the branch clone check, > combining them means simply copying them together because the logic is so > much different. > > Even from the user's perspective I see that branches with identical > conditions are different from redundant checks. While the first one is a more > serious bug (the second branch with the same condition is never executed) > this one is slightly more than a readability error. > There are many checks that users almost always keep enabled together, but > they are still separate checks. I cannot find an instance with two checks that are this strongly related. The closest I can come are some of the C++ Core Guideline checks, but those are a different beast because they're part of a set of guidelines. > Now I looked into the branch clone check, combining them means simply copying > them together because the logic is so much different. This is not a very compelling reason to make a decision to split the checks, to me. We have plenty of checks with complex matchers and checking logic. > Even from the user's perspective I see that branches with identical > conditions are different from redundant checks. While the first one is a more > serious bug (the second branch with the same condition is never executed) > this one is slightly more than a readability error. I don't view the proposed check as having anything to do with readability. Readability is "how do I make the code do the same thing but look prettier?" and other stylistic choices. This check is finding a case where the programmer has potentially made a logical mistake with their code and is considerably more serious than a matter of style. To me, these are identical problems of programmer confusion. The more I consider this, the more strongly I feel about combining the checks. I would have a hard time understanding why this code should require two different checks to be enabled to catch what amounts to the same logical confusion: ``` if (!foo) { } else if (foo) { // This is a chain of conditionals with a redundant check } if (!foo) { } else { if (foo) { // This is not a chain of conditionals, but it still has a redundant check } } ``` @alexfh do you have thoughts on this? CHANGES SINCE LAST ACTION https://reviews.llvm.org/D81272/new/ https://reviews.llvm.org/D81272 _______________________________________________ cfe-commits mailing list cfe-commits@lists.llvm.org https://lists.llvm.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cfe-commits