On Wed, Jun 15, 2022 at 3:21 PM Frank Schilder <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Eugen,
>
> in essence I would like the property "thick provisioned" to be sticky after 
> creation and apply to any other operation that would be affected.
>
> To answer the use-case question: this is a disk image on a pool designed for 
> predictable high-performance. On images on this pool we need to avoid any 
> latency spikes due to on-demand allocation of non-provisioned objects. It is 
> kind of strange that the rbd cli API is incomplete with regard to the thick 
> provision property.

Hi Frank,

Yeah, it appears to be an omission.  I filed [1] to get that addressed
one day.

RBD "thick provisioning" is a bit of odd ball feature.  There are other
issues with it: bluestore compression, if enabled, would interfere with
it, for example.  In general, the "thickness" (really just a bunch of
zeroes written to the image on your behalf) isn't safe-guarded against
any kind of compression-like optimization on the backend.

>
> I'm not sure if a flatten will have the desired effect. It just merges all 
> snapshots, which does not require to allocate unallocated objects if they are 
> not present in any snapshot. An un-sparsify image would do that. Did anyone 
> find a reasonable work-around except maybe a dd after the end of the existing 
> objects? Or a dd of the disk image onto itself?

"dd if=/dev/zero bs=<object size> ..." for the grown area is
a perfectly fine workaround.

[1] https://tracker.ceph.com/issues/56064

Thanks,

                Ilya

>
> Best regards,
> =================
> Frank Schilder
> AIT Risø Campus
> Bygning 109, rum S14
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Eugen Block <[email protected]>
> Sent: 15 June 2022 14:54:54
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [ceph-users] Re: rbd resize thick provisioned image
>
> So basically, you need the reverse sparsify command, right? ;-)
> I only find several mailing list thready asking why someone would want
> thick-provisioning but it happened eventually. I suppose cloning and
> flattening the resulting image is not a desirable workaround.
>
>
> Zitat von Frank Schilder <[email protected]>:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I need to increase the size of images created with
> > --thick-provision. Using resize will just change the provisioned
> > size, but not allocate/initialize the additional space. I seem to be
> > unable to find an option that will maintain thick provisioning of an
> > image when resizing.
> >
> > Is there a way to resize thick provisioned images properly, that is,
> > maintaining thick provisioning?
> >
> > Thanks and best regards,
> > =================
> > Frank Schilder
> > AIT Risø Campus
> > Bygning 109, rum S14
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