On Wed, 2020-11-11 at 16:38 -0700, Warren Young wrote:
> On Nov 11, 2020, at 2:01 PM, hw <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I have yet to see software RAID that doesn't kill the performance.
> 
> When was the last time you tried it?

I'm currently using it, and the performance sucks.  Perhaps it's
not the software itself or the CPU but the on-board controllers
or other components being incable handling multiple disks in a
software raid.  That's something I can't verify.

> Why would you expect that a modern 8-core Intel CPU would impede I/O in any 
> measureable way as compared to the outdated single-core 32-bit RISC CPU 
> typically found on hardware RAID cards?  These are the same CPUs, mind, that 
> regularly crunch through TLS 1.3 on line-rate fiber Ethernet links, a much 
> tougher task than mediating spinning disk I/O.

It doesn't matter what I expect.

> > And where
> > do you get cost-efficient cards that can do JBOD?
> 
> $69, 8 SATA/SAS ports: https://www.newegg.com/p/0ZK-08UH-0GWZ1

That says it's for HP.  So will you still get firmware updates once
the warranty is expired?  Does it exclusively work with HP hardware?

And are these good?

> Search for “LSI JBOD” for tons more options.  You may have to fiddle with the 
> firmware to get it to stop trying to do clever RAID stuff, which lets you do 
> smart RAID stuff like ZFS instead.
> 
> > What has HP been thinking?
> 
> That the hardware vs software RAID argument is over in 2020.
> 

Do you have a reference for that, like a final statement from HP?
Did they stop developing RAID controllers, or do they ship their
servers now without them and tell customers to use btrfs or mdraid?


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