> On Mar 8, 2026, at 5:18 PM, Holm Tiffe via cctalk <[email protected]> 
> wrote:

> <snip>
> 
> ..so I have an working ring counter here next to me on a breadboard. :-)
> 
> There is still an MPSA42 used as an pulse former in the clock circuit
> that I want to change agains a trigger tube. I need an Ide of an circuit
> that gets triggered on approx. 30-40V and outputs an rectangle pulse of
> lets say 60V and 10-30µs duration to properly trigger the ring counter,
> using possibly only one trigger tube.
> I think no one knows that for now..but  I'm very grateful for links
> to older literature on this topic.
> approximately in 2000 I'm parted out old hp tube counters, the displays
> where "thermometer Displays using 10 pcs. of neon lamps, one for each
> number. The counters used 4 12at7 type "digital" tubes (don't remember
> the exact type for now) with biquinary output to the neon lamps.
> Later hp counter modules used the very same schematics and the neons and
> one hybrid photoresistor module in front of the neons as decoder to
> drive nixie tubes. I've tried it already in the past with the neon bulb
> ring counters.. a cheap photoresistor in a balc schrink tube that was
> put onto the neon lamp can switch a nixie..it works flawlessly.
> Tried this on the TX4b .. works too. :-)
> ..other schematics ad an additional trogger tube for each nixie
> cathode..the effort pretty much explodes...
> 
> Hope someone can help with some hints or links.
> 
> Regards,
> Holm

Hello Holm, I very much recall when Friedhelm completed his clock. Ironically, 
I was building my own version in parallel initially unaware of his project. For 
mine, I used Beckman modules which I modified for proper roll-over, and drilled 
out the “thermometer” indicator fronts to mount CdS cells for the Nixies. The 
timebase was a dekatron “Phantastron” circuit operating at 1 PPS. Black crinkle 
paint and IBM toggles with proper trim nuts completed the package. A slightly 
lower power bill, but not by much, haha. Here’s a 20+ year old photo.  
https://linearlook.com/eldocountry/projects/tubeclock/tube1lrg.jpg

I have considered using neons in a ring circuit for a sequencer in my home-brew 
relay computer, but will probably go a different direction. Some folks have had 
success, but it requires much binning to get the desired characteristics for 
reliable operation. You were curious about links, I highly recommend this one: 
https://www.worldradiohistory.com/Archive-Catalogs/Suppliers/GHI/GE-Glow-lamp-manual-Theory-Circuits-Ratings-2nd-Edition-1965-118-pages.pdf

Best Regards,
Cory Heisterkamp

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