On Tue, 3 Feb 2015, Inge Wallin wrote:
Hi Tomas,
In Words this default operation is text editing and in sheets cell editing. In
Stage, it would be the same as in Words, except the text boxes are actually
movable and resizable so they are selectable. In Karbon and Flow everything
you do is edit shapes, so there is no default operation other than deselecting
all shapes. (I could be wrong here, please inform me if I am.)
Well, you're missing Krita in your list...
When working on flake, people really should keep Krita in mind _all the
time_, because Krita, right now is an application that is used by hundreds
of thousands of people. It might have escaped people's notice, but Krita
is not just the biggest Calligra application, it is one the biggest KDE
projects at the moment.
And any changes to KoToolManager are _really_ dangerous. The code is
extremely convoluted, complicated and there are hacks around issues all
over the place that have to do with tool activation. The problem is that
Thomas Zander's original tool manager design was typical, and the
next, bigger, problem is that flake imposes one interaction model on a
set of applications that simply shouldn't work the same way.
Now the right solution might be fork flake in two: one flake for
krita/karbon/flow (and it might even be a good idea to just drop karbon
and add the karbon-specific functionality to Krita's vector support) and
one flake for office apps. But I wouldn't do that until after the 3.0
porting. The port should be done without any refactoring, otherwise we'll
be in KOffice 2.0 territory again!
The good thing about this solution, as far as I can see, is that it would mean
very small changes to flake and none to any shape. So this should be possible
to get in before 2.9. We shouldn't be doing this now, but the current user
interaction problems are so horrible that I think we should make an exception.
And this is especially since 3.0 will probably be quite unstable and buggy and
should be regarded more like a tech preview than a real release.
No! Don't even think of it -- we should be releasing, not tinkering with
the interaction. Sure, it's all horrible, but it's been horrible since
2006, which is almost nine years. Let's not break stuff just when we're
about to release. I'm already getting dozens of pings every day about when
we're finally going to release Krita 2.9.
Boudewijn
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