Thanks. For the record, my wget was from a Big Corporate network where I
have no control over configuration. It's no problem for me to
use --no-check-certificate, I'm just happy to hear the problem is not at
the serving end.

David

On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 3:38 PM Martin Dorey <
martin.do...@hitachivantara.com> wrote:

> > It's more probable that David has outdated certificate DB and/or
> > outdated GnuTLS on his machine.
>
> Thanks once again to Microsoft for obeying Dorey's Law of Marketing with
> "safelinks", I only belatedly see David's evidence included "--2022-09-26
> 09:12:58--" which rather says that his clock wasn't messed up, contra my
> earlier suggestion.
>
> martind@sirius:~$ < /dev/null openssl s_client -connect alpha.gnu.org:https
> > /dev/null
> depth=2 C = US, O = Internet Security Research Group, CN = ISRG Root X1
> verify return:1
> depth=1 C = US, O = Let's Encrypt, CN = R3
> verify return:1
> depth=0 CN = ftp.gnu.org
> verify return:1
> DONE
> martind@sirius:~$
>
> "ISRG Root X1" rings a bell.  Ah yes, it's that old chestnut:
> https://www.openssl.org/blog/blog/2021/09/13/LetsEncryptRootCertExpire/,
> which contains advice for David.  I also found the work around from
> https://www.mail-archive.com/debian-lts@lists.debian.org/msg09627.html
>  specifically:
>
> sudo rm /usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla/DST_Root_CA_X3.crt
>
> ... to be helpful.
>
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> *Sent:* Monday, September 26, 2022 10:10
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> <bug-make@gnu.org>
> *Subject:* Re: GNU make 4.3.90 release candidate available
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> ***** EXTERNAL EMAIL *****
>
> > From: Paul Smith <psm...@gnu.org>
> > Cc: bug-make@gnu.org
> > Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2022 12:31:34 -0400
> >
> > On Mon, 2022-09-26 at 12:16 -0400, David Boyce wrote:
> > > BTW wget complains about the certificate:
> > >
> > > $ wget
> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Falpha.gnu.org%2Fgnu%2Fmake%2Fmake-4.3.90.tar.gz&amp;data=05%7C01%7CMartin.Dorey%40hitachivantara.com%7Cedd8aca6f47745c3454608da9fee5eb7%7C18791e1761594f52a8d4de814ca8284a%7C0%7C0%7C637998146567397614%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=LhGTvaG7H%2FEhlZTyhWwdwar%2Bxy2DdFbd1mMcNM1dGXI%3D&amp;reserved=0
> > > --2022-09-26 09:12:58--
> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Falpha.gnu.org%2Fgnu%2Fmake%2Fmake-4.3.90.tar.gz&amp;data=05%7C01%7CMartin.Dorey%40hitachivantara.com%7Cedd8aca6f47745c3454608da9fee5eb7%7C18791e1761594f52a8d4de814ca8284a%7C0%7C0%7C637998146567397614%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&amp;sdata=LhGTvaG7H%2FEhlZTyhWwdwar%2Bxy2DdFbd1mMcNM1dGXI%3D&amp;reserved=0
> > > Resolving alpha.gnu.org (alpha.gnu.org)... 209.51.188.21,
> 2001:470:142:3::c
> > > Connecting to alpha.gnu.org (alpha.gnu.org)|209.51.188.21|:443...
> connected.
> > > ERROR: cannot verify alpha.gnu.org's certificate, issued by
> '/C=US/O=Let\'s Encrypt/CN=R3':
> > >   Issued certificate has expired.
> > > To connect to alpha.gnu.org insecurely, use `--no-check-certificate'.
> >
> > Oddly I don't get this warning.  Maybe I have somehow asked wget to not
> > check expirations?
>
> It's more probable that David has outdated certificate DB and/or
> outdated GnuTLS on his machine.
>
>

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