Joshua Branson <jbra...@dismail.de> writes: > Samuel Thibault <samuel.thiba...@gnu.org> writes: > >> Joshua Branson, le ven. 25 oct. 2024 22:28:30 -0400, a ecrit: >>> - One cannot do `# halt` when running X. [This is a known >>> issue.](https://darnassus.sceen.net/~hurd-web/faq/x-exit/) >> >> No, the faq entry is about the normal session shutdown, due to a missing >> kill() functionality. >> >> Halt not being able to kill the X session is another concern. It would >> need to be tracked e.g. using a serial console, to check what process is >> lying behind, and that the initscripts don't manage to kill. Normally >> they are able to kill -KILL them after some (not too long) time, it >> should be checked why that's not happening. >> >>> I should try this again and see if I can ssh into the machine at >>> this state. >> >> You shouldn't be able to since halt turns down all daemons etc. >> >>> Not being able to run `# halt` will confuse the casual user. >>> So to halt my machine, I still have to kill X, then run `#halt`. I >>> tried running shutdown-hurd from inside X, as per Samuel's request. >> >> Not shutdown-hurd, but poweroff-hurd.
I did run $ sudo poweroff-hurd just now on real hardware. It was so wild! X continued to run! I could move the mouse! I could switch workspaces. I was not able to launch any new programs, probably because / was unmounted. For 5+ minutes I was playing in X waiting for the Hurd to shut off. It did not. I finally hit C-Alt-Del, and then X locked up. I could not move the mouse. I could not switch workspaces. I had to hard kill the machine. When it rebooted, I had no filesystem corruption! :) > That's another (VERY VERY VERY) minor issue. I can never remember what > the specific hurd specific shutdown commands are. Can we link > shutdown-hurd, hurd-shutdown, hurd-poweroff, halt-hurd, and hurd-halt to > poweroff-hurd ? > >> >>> Weirdly enough, after I pressed return on that command, I could >>> still move the cursor. >> >> That's not really surprising since since poweroff-hurd only cuts the >> base translators, without taking care of termination daemons etc. >> >>> It took X maybe 5 or so minutes before it >>> locked up on me and stopped accepting mouse movements. >> >> That, however, is surprising. Again, using a serial console would allow >> to know what is actually happening. > > I wonder if my T43 has a serial console? What sort of hardware could I > run the hurd on that has a serial cable? -- Joshua Branson Sent from the Hurd
