Applied, thanks! jbra...@dismail.de, le mer. 09 oct. 2024 23:41:26 -0400, a ecrit: > * faq/drivers.mdwn: I changed the recommended hardware to the T60, > which is currently the only hardware that you can use the Debian > installer cd. I mentioned that you must use the proprietary BIOS to > run X (libreboot/coreboot won't work). I removed some unnecessary > details. I hinted that rump is the Hurd's future for device drivers. > --- > faq/drivers.mdwn | 62 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++--------------------- > 1 file changed, 35 insertions(+), 27 deletions(-) > > diff --git a/faq/drivers.mdwn b/faq/drivers.mdwn > index 6301b7d8..923e3b38 100644 > --- a/faq/drivers.mdwn > +++ b/faq/drivers.mdwn > @@ -13,46 +13,54 @@ License|/fdl]]."]]"""]] > > [[!meta title="what hardware is supported? What drivers does GNU/Hurd > have?"]] > > -As of September 2024, if you want to run the Hurd in real hardware, > -old Thinkpads are known to work well. We recommend the X200, T400, or > -T500 Thinkpads, which support internet connectivity via the ethernet > -port. Those laptops support a maximum of 8GB of RAM, and you could > -use libreboot with an SSD! You could probably purchase one of those > -used laptops for about $200 or less. Be sure to read about the > -[[current status of the Hurd|hurd/status]]. Until we fix the > -libdiskfs/ext2fs issues on the [[64 bit port|faq/64-bit]], we > -recommend you use the 32 bit version of the Hurd. > +As of September 2024, the Hurd runs well on old Thinkpads. We > +recommend the Thinkpad T60, which supports a maximum of 4GB of RAM, > +and you can use an [[SSD|hurd/rump/rumpdisk]]. If you have difficulty > +installing the Hurd, then try setting your harddrive mode to "legacy" > +in the BIOS. A cheaper option is the T43 (2GB max RAM). > > -A cheaper option is the T43 (2GB max RAM) or T60 (4 GB max RAM), which > -one can find for about $50. > +Other working Thinkpads include the X200, T400, or T500 Thinkpads, > +which support internet connectivity via the ethernet port. You can > +use an [[SSD|hurd/rump/rumpdisk]] on these laptops, which support a > +maximum of 8GB of RAM. The Debian installer images from 2023 fail to > +boot these machines, but you can install the Hurd via [[Debian's > +CrossInstall|hurd/running/debian/CrossInstall]]. Until we fix the > +libdiskfs/ext2fs issues on the [[64 bit port|faq/64-bit]], we > +recommend that you use the 32 bit version of the Hurd. > > Other hardware that is known to work includes the [[Dell Inspiron > 1750|https://logs.guix.gnu.org/hurd/2024-09-28.log]] on i386 > Debian/Hurd. It won't boot with the current installer (June 2023 > -debian-hurd i386 installer iso) because of an FPU issue (fixed > -upstream). I had to remove the optical drive. It Hangs for one minute > +debian-hurd i386 net-install) because of an FPU issue (fixed > +upstream). I had to remove the optical drive. It hangs for one minute > during boot on ACPI init, but otherwise fine when disabling full tree > parsing. The touchpad, keyboard, display, ethernet, and the hard > drive works (in legacy mode). > > -Currently, for disks Mach integrates old drivers from Linux through some > -[[community/gsoc/project_ideas/driver_glue_code]], which provide > +The Hurd can run on more recent Intel machines, but with [[no internet > +connectivity|hurd/running/debian/DebianAptOffline]]! You can always > +use the Hurd via [[qemu|hurd/running/qemu]]. > + > +Currently, for disks Mach integrates old drivers from Linux through > +some [[community/gsoc/project_ideas/driver_glue_code]], which provide > IDE disk support, and we have an AHCI driver which provides [[SATA > -support|faq/sata_disk_drives]]. [[Rumpdisk|hurd/rump]] lets us use > -modern hard drives, like SSDs. > +support|faq/sata_disk_drives]]. [[Rumpdisk|hurd/rump/rumpdisk]] lets > +us use modern hard drives, like SSDs. > > -For network boards, we use the [[DDE]] toolkit > -to run linux 2.6.32 drivers in userland processes, which provides both > long-term > -support for new hardware and safety against driver bugs. Note however that > we > -have of course not tested all drivers, we obviously don't even have all > kinds of > -hardware. So we can not promise that they will all work. What probably > -works for sure is what we usually use: the rtl8139 and e1000 drivers for > -instance. Firmware loading is not implemented yet. > +For network boards, we curently use the [[DDE]] toolkit to run linux > +2.6.32 drivers in userland processes, which we may eventually replace > +with [[rump drivers|hurd/rump]]. Note however that we have of course > +not tested all drivers. We obviously don't even have all kinds of > +hardware. So we can not promise that they will all work. What > +probably works for sure is what we usually use: the rtl8139 and e1000 > +drivers for instance. Firmware loading is not implemented yet. > > -For graphical mode, Xorg is supported, e.g. with the vesa driver. DRM is not > -supported yet. > +For graphical mode, Xorg is supported, e.g. with the vesa driver. DRM > +is not supported yet. To run X then, you must use the proprietary > +BIOS, since coreboot/libreboot do not include a working vesa driver. > > -USB is on its way to getting supported with rumpusbdisk. > +Hurd developers are working on adding USB support with > +[[rumpusbdisk|hurd/rump/rumpusbdisk]]. > > [[microkernel/mach/gnumach/ports/Xen]] is also supported, both blkfront and > netfront. > > base-commit: 3ac85c9ed292a23788dc8ecb4a3214275ad01699 > prerequisite-patch-id: e92e5ab6ff37a435072b1a62f9d3c275519ace00 > prerequisite-patch-id: 31f2b605f16485e4f18e0626961da207a35452f1 > prerequisite-patch-id: c20cf23635a626f5772cf38d0ba21c0c4e51c47d > prerequisite-patch-id: 8c76c9dad3bb83ff118fd00babfccf77e461c38b > prerequisite-patch-id: 5e86c4819671073e547e64c4eabb5f5a4b3ee26e > prerequisite-patch-id: b1966e4f64cb9d485bdf898d6e2869a3eb62049e > prerequisite-patch-id: 27b8d3d068e592595386316dd11f9af7679fdb60 > prerequisite-patch-id: dc81088434663943d92d13ff2b5adf96a13c00c2 > -- > 2.45.2 > >
-- Samuel <b> j'en ai parlé à xavier, il n'est pas interdit qu'il le change un jour -+- #sos - a le bras long vers le chameau -+-
