On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 09:46:00 -0700, Roland McGrath wrote: > So-called "silent" builds are a pox upon debuggability and should never be > the default.
I agree silent rules should never be enabled for automated builds, for example on the Debian packaging, because that makes the build logs mostly useless. But when someone is manually triggering a build, and there's debugging needed “configure --disable-silent-rules” or “make V=1” are always available. Also IMO the most important case is precisely for the manual trigger, so that developers do not introduce new code issues, which with the amount of output junk autoconf produces it's pretty hard to spot. (In the gnumach case the situation is already bad...) In any case if this is the maintainers opinion, I'm following up with a patch that adds the infrastructure but disables it by default, which is better than nothing. regards, guillem
